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Old 09-07-19, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Everyone here must be perfect.

None of you have ever forgotten to turn your lights on or drove down the road with your directional on?
I’m imperfect. Once bought a new car and thought the headlights turned on automatically each time I started the ignition… Turns out they were just “daytime running lights“ that provide very low illumination - just enough to make it more visible in daylight. A few days after buying the car I took a 400 mile road trip at night and didn’t notice anything wrong.

However, I do have the headlight on my handlebar and the tail light on the back of my bike.
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi
Looks like a bike throw..

I hate joggers on mups... I cant count the number of times I've seen them do u-turns out of nowhere all while wearing headphones.
I don't get it either. It's so dangerous.
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Old 09-08-19, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Everyone here must be perfect.

None of you have ever forgotten to turn your lights on or drove down the road with your directional on?
Oh, I've done that for sure.

One thing I've not thought to do is reverse the lights on my bike. Sounds like something I would have done as a teenager, though.
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Old 09-08-19, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost
What human does not understand that red is for taillights and white lights go up front to help you see. If you don't understand this intuitively (or by reading the packaging that came with your light), then riding in the dark with the reverse configuration should clue you in. Odd indeed - perhaps it's intentional.
was he,perchance,riding backwards?
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Old 09-08-19, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK
Yeah this morning I approached a road crossing as a guy opposite was approaching. There's a pair of posts on each side. Only one bike can go through the posts at a time, they're too narrow. I was there first, so I went through and crossed the road. Then he attempted to take the road, placing himself between the posts on that side. Now he's blocked me. What an absolute idiot.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who isn't stupid or rude that you let someone off a road before attempting to proceed.

I was tempted to force through and inflict any resulting damage onto him, but chose to go around the outside of the post instead, as I had the tyres and suspension to cope with the kerb.

This guy, unfortunately for many on here, was the commonly clueless type - wearing all the gear, riding a road bike.

Store workers on 20yo Walmart bikes don't act like this.
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the rider with the most expensive bike/kit is entitled and has right of way
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Old 09-08-19, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sumgy
I just find it hilarious how people care enough to post this stuff on the forum.
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Old 09-08-19, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK

I was tempted to force through and inflict any resulting damage onto him, but chose to go around the outside of the post instead, as I had the tyres and suspension to cope with the kerb.

Originally Posted by gringomojado
curb

the rider with the most expensive bike/kit is entitled and has right of way
American vs. British, or is that British vs. American?

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Old 09-08-19, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gringomojado
curb

the rider with the most expensive bike/kit is entitled and has right of way
Kerb.

But I'll let you off, as it's a well known fact that only the English can spell in English properly.

And the rider with the toughest and heaviest bike has right of way, if he chooses to take it
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Old 09-08-19, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MNHarv
by the time I get through a thread someone's written a reasonable version of my thoughts already.

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I get this with ideas and inventions..
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Old 09-08-19, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK
Kerb.

But I'll let you off, as it's a well known fact that only the English can spell in English properly.

And the rider with the toughest and heaviest bike has right of way, if he chooses to take it
What side of the trail were you riding on? Right or left? That determines whether it was "kerb" or curb.Was handlebar on left or right side?
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Old 09-08-19, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gringomojado
What side of the trail were you riding on? Right or left? That determines whether it was "kerb" or curb.Was handlebar on left or right side?
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I should say naturally, what with this being the land of hope and glory, we were riding on the left, sir.
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Old 09-09-19, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Alleytom
Not only that, but Arizona Law requires bicyclists to have a white headlight visible from at least 500 feet and a red rear reflector visible from 50 to 300 feet...
All states do. So reversing the structure is not only dangerous but illegal. Although I'm not totally sure if that law applies to the MUP and/or the sidewalk.
Originally Posted by MikeyMK
People drive at night with no headlights on. They can't see the dash. What speed they're going, how much fuel they have, nothing. How can you drive and not realise?

This is the mentality of some people. Like the ones who pedal their bike with the arches of their feet. Wtf
I call it wacky logic (and a few other names that I won't mention here). Like when crossing the street and the majority move to the right except that one person that does the opposite and crosses in front of your path with a collision or near collision.
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After a couple of decades in the bike biz, a few thousand miles of touring and several years of bike commuting I find myself most on foot these days when around bicyclists. Most seem like normal folk but about 10% qualify as a******s and probably only one in a thousand knows to use a bell when overtaking except on MUPs, and then bell usage is more common. Folks these days are much better with lights, too.
Discourteous and misbehaving cyclist are probably less than motorist and pedestrians. We just point it out more because its our sport/pastime and because of this venue. I've been hit by cyclist maybe 3x in my life. I get bumped into by cell phones zombies every day. I assure you, pedestrians are much, much worse.
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Old 09-09-19, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gringomojado
What side of the trail were you riding on? Right or left? That determines whether it was "kerb" or curb.Was handlebar on left or right side?
gm
I think that would merely determine if one was salmoning or not.

By the way, I want to see one of those one side handlebars.
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Originally Posted by Alleytom
This is one of those things that makes bikers look bad...
Bikers, drivers, construction workers, doctors, nurses, teachers, etc...people basically.
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Not sure the logic of cyclist reversing the red and white lights. I was riding one night on a street and saw a red light on a bike up ahead. I thought I was closing in on the rear of a cyclist, but they had reversed the lights and the distance was closing fast on a salmoning rider. Avoided a collision, but scared the heck out of me.
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Just curious...was she wearing earbuds? Thinking she may not have heard him coming and that was even more startling. Not making a judgement.
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Old 09-12-19, 07:52 AM
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sounds like that guy was looking for trouble
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK
It's pretty obvious to anyone who isn't stupid or rude that you let someone off a road before attempting to proceed.
It's not obvious to me. Where is that rule written? Is it called the "cyclists on the road have right of way" rule? Is it a regional rule?

Here's my rule: the cyclist that gets to the narrow passage first has right of way.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
It's not obvious to me. Where is that rule written?Is it called the "cyclists on the road have right of way" rule? Is it a regional rule?

Here's my rule: the cyclist that gets to the narrow passage first has right of way.
An extension of the motor vehicle laws. Follow that and you'll have a much better chance at explaining and/or winning your case with the authorities. Few can argue with following the rule of law.

Yes, I know it was a rhetorical question.
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Yeah, but we're polite in Britain. Or were. We've all given up hope, now. We'll be making references to the law for everything, next.
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Originally Posted by sumgy
I just find it hilarious how people care enough to post this stuff on the forum.
I think the moderators should create a sticky titled: "MUP Trail Idiots"

Then everyone can just add their latest frustration to the list.

Maybe even give an award for BEST RANT OF THE WEEK?
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
It's not obvious to me. Where is that rule written? Is it called the "cyclists on the road have right of way" rule? Is it a regional rule?

Here's my rule: the cyclist that gets to the narrow passage first has right of way.
So in the case of a tie, you both go or neither of you goes? Good rule that.

Stopping in the road is way more likely to cause safety issues, so if I'm on the path, I'm letting him go first as basic courtesy, then cursing whoever it was who put this trap in the path.

That being said, I really don't recall ever encountering just this situation where a narrow gap and the intersection combine, and I ride on several dozen different paths in a year.
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK
Yeah, but we're polite in Britain. Or were. We've all given up hope, now. We'll be making references to the law for everything, next.
In the U.S. there's a law for everything, so in the end we'll all be well versed.
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Originally Posted by MikeyMK
Yeah, but we're polite in Britain.
Did you know that there's a law on the books in the UK that covers "careless and inconsiderate cycling"? Only in Britain.
29 Careless, and inconsiderate, cycling.
If a person rides a cycle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is guilty of an offence [sic].

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Originally Posted by livedarklions
So in the case of a tie, you both go or neither of you goes? Good rule that.
I hadn't considered a tie, having never encountered that before.

Tie should go to the best dressed rider, clearly.
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