Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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Nitto M106 compact bars (42cm) with Nitto Dynamic 10 stem. When I first updated my Ron Cooper I had Cinelli CDM bars but had got used to compact bars on another bike, and the Nitto bars work perfectly with the SRAM shifters for a nice flat transition. I really like the Dynamic stem, similar style to the old Cinelli XA I used to have.
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(The only component on the bike that is now over 30 years old is the Dura Ace AX aero seatpost, which I believe Nitto made for them, so there's some nice matching going on in my mind.)
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While I have replaced the original stem on my Holdsworth with an ahead it is a 130mm stem and the bars are 40mm (centre of left hood to centre of right hood). The bars themselves angle down and forward from the stem. The bike is a 54cm so 1 size too small for me as I am 5ft 10½. I am flexible though and if I were to stay with a swan-neck then I could've slammed it another inch lower. It's as low as it will go at the moment with a 5mm spacer below and a 2mm above. Can't raise the saddle further because I get aches behind my knees.
It's a long way to the drops but I ride the hoods most of the time. Like Phil the bar>SRAM transition is nice and flat. Moreso because the corners/turns of the bar are flattened slightly so I often tend to ride a little behind the hoods rather than having a claw grip on the hood itself.
Looking at the pictures I uploaded it makes the bars look like they are turned up a little but they are level from corner to the hoods. Must be the angles of the bars making it look that way.
It's a long way to the drops but I ride the hoods most of the time. Like Phil the bar>SRAM transition is nice and flat. Moreso because the corners/turns of the bar are flattened slightly so I often tend to ride a little behind the hoods rather than having a claw grip on the hood itself.
Looking at the pictures I uploaded it makes the bars look like they are turned up a little but they are level from corner to the hoods. Must be the angles of the bars making it look that way.
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Late 80s/ early 90s Marinoni.
Athena 11 speed
H+ Son Achetype polished, on Miche hubs
Athena 11 speed
H+ Son Achetype polished, on Miche hubs
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It is very cool to have owned a bike since new, or close to it!
Here is the latest configuration of my 1982 McLean. I've installed a new-to-me Ultegra front derailleur and a Velo Orange triple crankset. The chainrings are 48/34/24, and the 9-speed cassette is 12-26. I have lots of low gears, and I'll see if I can replace the 12T cog with an 11T. I've had this frameset since 1983, and I love it to death.
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It is very cool, and every time I ride it, I fall in love with it again. I don't know what the magic ingredient is, but it's there.
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noglider What is mounted to the drive-side end of the front qr skewer on that fine bike?
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Great looking bike. Are you sure this is late 90's. It looks very much like mine, which I believe is an 88. Coincedently, I sent pictures of my bike and the serial number to Marinoni just last week. They advised that as my serial number starts with an 8 it is either an 88, or 98 frame. Since they are working from home and can only access more recent archives they said mine does not match the 98 in their current archives. They said when they are open again they will look for more info. Great support from Marinoni for old information. My bike also has stoch Shimano 600 tri colour 7 speed drive trai which is from 88-91 according to Velobase. Here is a photo of mine fro reference (waiting for complete overhaul).
I had read somewhere that Marinoni changed from Italian Tread to English in 1992 or so. So I figured that, given mine has an italian threaded BB, that it was at least pre-1992.
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Something I've been wanting to do for a while and finally got around to: fitting brifters to my Roy Thame.
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Sorry, I had meant to type late 80s/early 90s, but must have gotten ahead of myself. I have never tried to pin it down, but I will have to look at the serial number to see.
I had read somewhere that Marinoni changed from Italian Tread to English in 1992 or so. So I figured that, given mine has an italian threaded BB, that it was at least pre-1992.
I had read somewhere that Marinoni changed from Italian Tread to English in 1992 or so. So I figured that, given mine has an italian threaded BB, that it was at least pre-1992.
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Another strange coincidence, the seatpost might be the very same one as on my Ron Cooper up-thread, as my bro sold me all the components from his bike in '87 when I first got the Ron.
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Roy Thame! Lovely. I've seen precisely two of these in my life. One was hanging in a bike hire shop in Mallorca, the other was owned by my brother for a short while in the mid '80s. A beautiful fillet-brazed frame... just found the only photo I'm aware of, sorry it's a bit grainy!
Another strange coincidence, the seatpost might be the very same one as on my Ron Cooper up-thread, as my bro sold me all the components from his bike in '87 when I first got the Ron.
Another strange coincidence, the seatpost might be the very same one as on my Ron Cooper up-thread, as my bro sold me all the components from his bike in '87 when I first got the Ron.
I'd never heard of Roy Thame when this frameset popped up in the local classifieds in my preferred size. I did some reading up, and decided quickly that it was an opportunity not to be wasted. And I'm really glad I didn't.
BTW, it seems that its builder, Tom Quick of Forest Hill, and Ron Cooper knew each other quite well.
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While your frame might be English threaded, I would disagree that Shimano cranks guarantee English thread. Shimano most definitely makes Italian threaded bottom brackets.
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Excellent! You're jogging my memory now, but I didn't realise Tom Quick was connected. TJ Quick did indeed have a shop in Forest Hill, half a mile down the road from Ron in Honor Oak. I spent my first 28 years living in Nunhead, another mile down the road. Little did I know growing up that one of the UK's best frame builders was my local bike shop. The first time I had my Ron resprayed (rusty headset and top tube cable guides, naughty me!) I took it in to TJ Quick to get it done.
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Yea, I don't doubt that. I overhauled a Bianchi with shimano cranks and both bearing cups where RH thread. Through me off for a bit.
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I reckon my (Le) Kypo could fit in here. First gen Ergo levers on a '92 frame, so period correct!
(Ignore the pedals, they were for test ride purposes only.)
(Ignore the pedals, they were for test ride purposes only.)
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Setting out for "handlebar testing". I took new Campagnolo components and made them look older by stripping and polishing.. It may have turned out a little too blingy. This is a bit of a different take on "retro roadies", more of a "restomod".
This is a frame I bought from CL. Added modern parts until we got to here. I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
This is a frame I bought from CL. Added modern parts until we got to here. I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
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Setting out for "handlebar testing". I took new Campagnolo components and made them look older by stripping and polishing.. It may have turned out a little too blingy. This is a bit of a different take on "retro roadies", more of a "restomod".
This is a frame I bought from CL. Added modern parts until we got to here. I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
This is a frame I bought from CL. Added modern parts until we got to here. I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
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That is Origin 8 "Ultim8". I chose it because I can swap handlebars or stems quickly. It is 90mm, which may be too long. If I decide on shorter (which I probably will), then I will be trying a Deda Elementi MUREX 80mm. I am currently looking for the same type of thing in 70mm, it seems this bike has a longer top tube than my other bikes I am comfortable on.
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Setting out for "handlebar testing". I took new Campagnolo components and made them look older by stripping and polishing.. It may have turned out a little too blingy. This is a bit of a different take on "retro roadies", more of a "restomod".
I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
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So far: Because I ended up with Campagnolo record brifters, they give a choice of cables running together out the front, or one across the front of the bar and one cable around the rear of the bar. Therefore, I chose a compact Deda 44 with double grooves. I initially separated the cables, and it felt terrible, so then I ran the cables together across the front of The Dedas. This was much better, so now I can choose a handlebar with a single groove across the front (much more common), which leads me to the 44cm Soma HwyOne. I have had great success dealing with Retrogression in Portland Oregon. They totally "get it".
The 44 was an easy choice because I have measured 45cm across my shoulder bumps. My cyclocross bike has 42 because I am always so close to people but it feels terrible. I tried 46 on a "gravel" bike, and it felt like a Harley. So 44cm it is, Goldilocks style.
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Setting out for "handlebar testing". I took new Campagnolo components and made them look older by stripping and polishing.. It may have turned out a little too blingy. This is a bit of a different take on "retro roadies", more of a "restomod".
This is a frame I bought from CL. Added modern parts until we got to here. I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
This is a frame I bought from CL. Added modern parts until we got to here. I already don't like the handlebars (ITM), and am putting Soma Hwy One on for the next test run. The triple is necessary for where I live.
A frame like that is on my list of want want wants.