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Old 05-01-09, 09:45 AM
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Campagnolo Hub Axle Diameters

Can anyone tell me if Grand Sport and Nuovo Tipo hub axles are the same diameter? I know they are different lengths.
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If I recall correctly, all Campagnolo axles are 10mm x 26TPI, with the exception of the solid axle Nuovo Tipo, which is 9.5mm x 26TPI.
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Why would they be different lengths?
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
Why would they be different lengths?
Because they cover a long span of years and evolving OLD dimensions.
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
Why would they be different lengths?
Actually, I'm not sure they are. I assume they would be as the GS rear hub measures 87mm across, and was made at a time when rear drop outs were 110mm apart whereas the NT hub is 89.6mm across and was made when drop outs were 120mm apart.

I have a front NT hub and the axle measures 8.8mm across and I have what I think is a front GS axle (sold to me as such) which measures 9mm acoss. The known rear NT axle I have is 9.9mm across.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Because they cover a long span of years and evolving OLD dimensions.
OLD... that's the acronym I was trying to remember! Why can't I be that succinct?
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OLD... that's the acronym I was trying to remember! Why can't I be that succinct?
OLD= Over Lock Diameter.
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Originally Posted by Dawes-man
Actually, I'm not sure they are. I assume they would be as the GS rear hub measures 87mm across, and was made at a time when rear drop outs were 110mm apart whereas the NT hub is 89.6mm across and was made when drop outs were 120mm apart.

I have a front NT hub and the axle measures 8.8mm across and I have what I think is a front GS axle (sold to me as such) which measures 9mm acoss. The known rear NT axle I have is 9.9mm across.
Perhaps this can help:

Rear axles


Front axles

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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Perhaps this can help:

Rear axles


Front axles
It only lists the Nuovo Tipo. I'm trying to find out if the diameters are the same for Gran Sport axles.
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Originally Posted by Dawes-man
It only lists the Nuovo Tipo. I'm trying to find out if the diameters are the same for Gran Sport axles.
What vintage Gran Sport? Through the 70s and 80s, Gran Sport hubs were Tipo hubs. My edition of Sutherland's (4th) doesn't have information on the 1950s Gran Sport hubs, and the Campy catalogs of that period don't specify it.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
What vintage Gran Sport? Through the 70s and 80s, Gran Sport hubs were Tipo hubs. My edition of Sutherland's (4th) doesn't have information on the 1950s Gran Sport hubs, and the Campy catalogs of that period don't specify it.
Early 50s. Old logo with more detail on the wings.
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The diameter must be measured at the thicker threaded part because on my 70's Record rear axle seems to be only 9mm at the smooth center part.
I want to get a longer axle at bikepro.com but their listing it at 9mm. Something is wrong as they list the front at 9mm also. We all know the front axle is smaller. I may phone them and ask because they do not have email contact!

At the page below, the Campi Record rear axle is:
9MM x 1 x 130MM

Is the 1 meaning 1 thread per mm ?

BikePro.com / Buyer's Guide / SRP Hub Accessories - Bicycle Parts at discount prices / the Buyer's Guide / Bicycle Parts at their finest! / Professional Bicycle Source / Bike Pro

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Originally Posted by avhed
...9MM x 1 x 130MM... ...Is the 1 meaning 1 thread per mm ?
The rear axle would be 10mm x 26tpi x 130mm for a 120mm Campagnolo rear QR hub.

Most everybody else's axle threading is 25.4tpi (1mm thread pitch).
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Perhaps this can help:

Rear axles


Front axles
Where is this chart from?
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Originally Posted by avhed
The diameter must be measured at the thicker threaded part because on my 70's Record rear axle seems to be only 9mm at the smooth center part.
I want to get a longer axle at bikepro.com but their listing it at 9mm. Something is wrong as they list the front at 9mm also. We all know the front axle is smaller. I may phone them and ask because they do not have email contact!

At the page below, the Campi Record rear axle is:
9MM x 1 x 130MM

Is the 1 meaning 1 thread per mm ?

BikePro.com / Buyer's Guide / SRP Hub Accessories - Bicycle Parts at discount prices / the Buyer's Guide / Bicycle Parts at their finest! / Professional Bicycle Source / Bike Pro

You can get the axles you want here.
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Just cut to length, not difficult at all. I use these all the time.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Perhaps this can help:

Rear axles


Front axles
Originally Posted by avhed
Where is this chart from?
Sutherland's Handbook for Bicycle Mechanics, 4th Edition
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
What vintage Gran Sport? Through the 70s and 80s, Gran Sport hubs were Tipo hubs. My edition of Sutherland's (4th) doesn't have information on the 1950s Gran Sport hubs, and the Campy catalogs of that period don't specify it.
My two pairs of Gran Sport hubs, steel center sections and accept quick releases are exchangeable with later Record parts. I would have to take one apart to reference the front hub ball bearing diameter.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
You can get the axles you want here.
Wheels Manufacturing Hub Axles
Just cut to length, not difficult at all. I use these all the time.
Impressive! $25 for a shaft with threads!
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Originally Posted by SJX426
Impressive! $25 for a shaft with threads!
Amazon has them for $18.00. Also, these are much stronger than original.
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LOL still a very spendy part for what it is. I guess you cann't get a soft cone at DQ for 5 cents anymore either! York Peppermint Patties are over a $1! Just 5 years ago I refused to even consider buying one for $.50!
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Originally Posted by SJX426
Impressive! $25 for a shaft with threads!
The 10 X 26 X 141 is $17 there.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
Amazon has them for $18.00. Also, these are much stronger than original.
Strong enough for an eight speed freewheel under a 175 lb rider?
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Originally Posted by avhed
Strong enough for an eight speed freewheel under a 175 lb rider?

I'm 225, and have them on 2 bikes. Both have the rear hubs spaced to 128.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
I'm 225, and have them on 2 bikes. Both have the rear hubs spaced to 128.
The next consideration is usage, i.e. how many miles ridden at what speed over what kind of pavement.
Also, how much steep climbing using a very small chainring, all will affect the service interval before an axle failure occurs.

At 225lb with an 8-speed freewheel, this setup would be relatively fragile regardless of the frame's axle spacing.
The frame's inside spacing will affect the potential strength of the wheel/rim, but not the axle (assuming here that the axle spacers are set for minimum axle overhang using whatever freewheel has been chosen).
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Wheels manufacturing axles do not have a slot, making them much stronger than original.
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