Magnificent777

Hello Cyclist,

I want to know if anyone is on Primal and successfully riding without the standard carb loading? I went on a ride after 4weeks on Primal. I just took water, no gel packs, ate breakfast before riding and it seem strange to me. I felt that I didn't have any back ups for energy but still felt fine throughtout the ride without bonking. I just want to know if there is a better way and still stay primal.

My Background:
After watching a few documentries I found out that inflamation is the cause of heart attack and stroke, the cause of fat storage and the leading to diabetic state. What causes this? Sugar causes rise in insulin, insulin to fat storage making us sugar burning machines instead of fat burning machine.

So after much research I discovered that animal fat, regulated carbs from fruit and vegetable, avoiding all grains, bread and pasta, sugar, appropriate rest and moderate exercise improves your health and brings your body to balance.. Primal Blue Print

I have lost 17lb in 6 weeks. I started 10-31-2011. I took my bloold pressure at Tom Thumb. Pre Primal was 138/88 . 6 weeks into Primal 114/78. My energy through the roof and my drive is crazy. My wife says I'm an animal lol!

My buddy who had not seen me in a while said I look super fit, saw a big difference in me.

My riding is different I can tell the absent of gel packs and carbo loading. So how do I do this on the Primal Blue Print?

MegaTom

Is this an actual question, or are you trying to sell something?

ne_dan

But wait there's more. If you order now we'll fill you even more BS for free.

rkwaki

Sales pitch to follow shortly...

Magnificent777

I restated my thread to better ask the question.

pallen

When you are in the middle of intense workout, that is one time your body can use sugars without much harm. Most of us probably consume more than is necessary when we are out riding though. You can certainly try just water and fruit, nuts, etc, but if you need more, diluted gatorade will give you a boost.

The "Primal" or "Paleolithic" diet is not a bad thing, but I don't think whole grains absolutely must be completely eliminated. They are fine in moderation and the fiber is much needed in our diet. They break down to glucose which is easily dealt with by your body with little insulin reaction when compared to what happens when you eat fructose.

wkg

Well, I can tell you that you are going to die due to your diet.

I don't think you're going to pull some weight loss scam product over on a bunch of cyclists.

It's not safe to lose 17 lbs in 6 weeks.

tagaproject6

Cool story bro!

Most importantly...did the fonts change on the board?

Magnificent777

Awesome. I'm making preparation for the spring 2012 and since I'm new going primal I was trying to figure out what I could do for the nutrition and energy without compromising my health goals.

I'm getting a diet list together developing my approach to rides and races.

Thank you.

Debusama

I have no idea what primal blue is, but if you are having all of these inflammation problems, and not eating grains has brought down your blood pressure so much, you might ask your doctor about a possible gluten allergy rather than self-diagnosing. If you aren’t racing I don’t know why you feel the need to load up on carbohydrates. Having a normal meal an hour or so prior to riding, water with some lemon juice, and a banana along the way should get someone who recently had a heart attack as far as they need to be going without bonking or having to eat wheat products and refined sugars.

Edit: Sorry. I misread the part about heart-attacks, and thought you said you had one. Either way, I doubt based on what you said in your post that you're riding much further that what normal glycogen stores will allow for.

ravenmore

Actually it might be ok to lose that much in 6 weeks. That's a month and a half and not even 3 pounds per week.

Wow - not eve a good sales pitch at that. I discovered this 'diet' years ago. Just eat fruit, nuts, vegetables, and lean meat. No pasta, bread, or alcohol. The weight does come off fast and your energy levels are constant/good. I wish I had put a fancy name on it and tried to sell it.

Bob Dopolina 

This is a gross over simplification that is incorrect. Enzymes determine where sugars are used/stored and insulin is only a factor under certain conditions.

Moderate exercise is woefully inadequate to be a competitive cyclist.

Ah, the sales pitch.

A homoerotic twist (I didn't see that coming).

Who the heck carbo loads? Is this thread from the 1980's?

If you really rode a bike you would know that you need carbs to ride further than to the gym and back.

Utter fail.

rkwaki

My name is rkwaki and I am a carb-o-holic and I carbo load every day...
Oh yeah and 300+ grams of protein a day

Magnificent777

My intention was not to lose a bunch weight in short period of time and for sure I have no gains in selling anything that is not my own product or invested stock.

But I am pleased to see some results and as far death goes the reason I did research on improving my health is to reach 80yrs old and still ride.

My diet in a day with multiple options as days go by:

Breakfast: 3 eggs with mushroom, green peppers and onion. Coffee and pineapple

Lunch: 4 to 6oz Salmon, 1 cucumber, 1 tomato, 1/2 of avacado

Snack: Old fashion made popcorn, seeds popped in cocnut oil, real butter, light salt

Dinner: Steak or beef 6 oz, Salad and broc/cabbage with ligh dressing and cheese.

I do enjoy some milk, berrires and protien

Weekends 10oz of wine and variation of meals exception of grains, pasta and sugar

Bob Dopolina 

Then you don't understand how carbo loading is supposed to work.

The process takes several days and includes a period of depletion so it is impossible to do 'every day' (unless by carbo loading you mean beer in which case that is a whole other story worthy of it's own thread).

RUOkie

PROTEIN!!!
(channelling my inner Vicelord)

Bob Dopolina 

...another guy without a clue...

rkwaki

I knew I would get a taker, I was being sarcastic....

Bob Dopolina 

...so...you're not talking about beer?

DXchulo

I'm not sure you're going to find a good on-bike solution for this. Carbs are you body's preferred fuel during exercise. I've always felt bogged down if I eat too much protein while riding, but that's just me. If you ride anything over 3 hours on just protein I'm guessing you would get an upset stomach. I don't think you'd have any better results eating pure fat, and that just doesn't seem healthy at all, anyway.

Personally I would just eat carbs while on the bike and skip them in your everyday meals if you are that much against them. That or stick to shorter rides.

rkwaki

Nope - I don't drink alcohol, I don't carb load everyday and most of what comes out of my mouth is sarcasm.
I do eat 300+ grams of protein a day and my wife is a fitness competitor. We have trainers, dieticians and nutritionists that work with us (her more than me due to the fact that I have been lazy lately) to meet our goals.
Just adding some levity to the forum

Bob Dopolina 

WAAAAY too subtle for this lot.

roadiejorge 

I've been on the Pie Diet where all I eat is pie for every meal. On hard rides I take a sandwich bag with chunks of pecan pie for energy. I'm not sure how it's affecting my cycling, but it sure is fun to eat though my jersey doesn't fit so well anymore.

Bob Dopolina 

That sounds like the M&M diet I did a few years ago. The results sound similar, too.

savvy523

My whole college tennis team carbo loads.