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All you will ever need to know about Training......PERIOD!

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Old 12-10-11, 03:11 PM
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All you will ever need to know about Training......PERIOD!

1. If you want to go fast .....train fast.
2. If you want to ride far.....ride far.
3. If you want to improve your cycling......cycle more.


It's that easy......................................Remember your DNA will determine most of what you can achieve. Hard work, focused training and good technique will play a role but all things being equal........most will never be Lance or Greg. Both are gifted athletes. Lance is a freak and is world class in several areas, his food intake or training was not the determining factor.....Good,, no great genes.

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Here we go.
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Thanks for all the advice! It really sounds like you know what you're talking about. What did your race results look like this year? I'm assuming you're a cat 3 or 2 based on your pro cyclist and training knowledge?
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Well he does have "hammer" in his name.
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ladies and gentlemen....it's times like these when I really appreciate power-hungry mods.... =p
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Well let's hear his credentials before we get too judgey, maybe he coaches pro cyclists? Riding buddies with Lance or Greg? (refers to them by first name perhaps they're friends)
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Here we go.
To where?
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To be fast, you must spend lots of time riding slow.

I know what I have accomplished on a bike and I am pretty happy about them. I can't wait to hear hammer's credentials.
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed
Thanks for all the advice! It really sounds like you know what you're talking about. What did your race results look like this year? I'm assuming you're a cat 3 or 2 based on your pro cyclist and training knowledge?
i like the sarcasm, but i have to agree (mostly) with the OP.

the rules of most sports demand freakish attributes from those who excel most.
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When I clicked the link I had thoughts of wasting half my day reading a long thread bashing the OP. Luckily I got in on the early end of this one. Only wasted a few minutes.

Stating the obvious doesn't make you a coach for anyone. Leave the obvious statements to people who have common sense. If you don't know that more time in the saddle and riding hard will make you faster then you have no reason being on a bike.
You get out what you put into it... And I haven't put in anything in the last 3 months.

I NEED MOTIVATION!!!
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
2. If you want to ride far.....ride far.
Apart from sorting out comfort issues that don't show up for the first few hours you don't need to ride far to ride far. You can spend fitness gained on short hard rides (an hour three days a week and 25-40 miles some weekends) on longer ones (100 miles in under 6 hours, a 440 mile week long tour with 30,000 feet of climbing).

3. If you want to improve your cycling......cycle more.
More of the same low intensity riding won't make you any faster and when it interferes with recovery you end up both tired and slow.
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
Lance is a freak and is world class in several areas, his food intake or training was not the determining factor.....Good,, no great genes.

Enjoy
Lance is a freak because he has one ball.
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Lance is a freak because he has one ball.
That's one more than anyone that would make a comment like that.
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That's one more than anyone that would make a comment like that.
haha. I just couldn't help myself.
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the hammerdog's powers of trolling are weak.

Next time, cite some ramblings you found on somebody's blog that claims they are an "expert" in something. Google up some more "studies" to bolster the point. That'll get the 41 in a lather. After about 8 pages or so, somebody will actually figure out the "expert" really has no experience at all in the matter at hand.

That would be a good troll.

One of the mechanics for Team RadioShack told a friend of my cousin that they will be inflating their tyres next year with pure nitrogen.

"Benefits of nitrogen...
Better tire pressure retention – nitrogen migrates through a tire 3 to 4 times slower than oxygen. It may take 6 months to lose 2 psi with nitrogen compared to less than a month with oxygen.

Cooler running tires – tires inflated with nitrogen run cooler than tires inflated with regular air.
Removal of oxidation – oxygen is a highly reactive element at high temperatures and pressures. Replacing the oxygen with nitrogen helps eliminate the oxidation that damages inner liners and belt packages.

On-the-road reliability – tire failures can be significantly reduced which reduces down time and costly service calls."


https://velonews.competitor.com/2010/...p-tires_146989

https://www.tires-inc.com/nitrogen.htm

https://www.branick.com/pdf/nitrogen_age_slower.pdf

Does anybody know where I can get some cartridges of N2 for my bike?
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Who's Greg?

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Regarding nitrogen

If the Earth's atmosphere contains roughly 78% nitrogen that means 78% of what you put into your tires is nitrogen. I've read that oxygen leaks out of tubes faster than nitrogen.

So if the first time you pump up your tire from 0 pressure you are putting 78% nitrogen 20% oxygen and a small percentage of other gasses. Because the oxygen leaks at a faster rate than the nitrogen the composition of the air in your tires will have a higher percentage nitrogen than oxygen (albeit at a lower pressure). Now when you pump up your tires again you're adding a volume of gas at that 80/20 ratio to a larger volume of gas at maybe a 90/10 oxy/nitrogen ratio. But because the oxygen is always leaking at a faster rate than the nitrogen the ratio of nitrogen/oxygen is constantly increasing. My guess is that it starts out at a ratio of around 80/20 like the atmosphere and maybe after a month you have a ratio of 95/5 nitrogen/oxygen.

Granted you can pump your tires up with 100% nitrogen right away if you want. But theoretically over time the composition of the air in your tubes should come close to 100% nitrogen.
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Sorry, that advice may sound perfectly logical, but it just didn't work for me. I wanted to ride fast, but I couldn't, but then I couldn't train fast either, so I had to do lots of slow training and gradually work my way up. And I wanted to ride far, but had to start out slow and work my way up there, too. If I could train fast and train far, I wouldn't need to be training in the first place, I'd just go do it.

One common myth is that you won't get any better by spending lots of time riding slow. That might be true in a lot of cases, I don't know. But one situation where it isn't true, is if a part of your training is losing weight.
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Oh brother. It's going to be a long winter...and technically it hasn't even started.

This is just the late fall preamble.
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Originally Posted by wkg
Regarding nitrogen

If the Earth's atmosphere contains roughly 78% nitrogen that means 78% of what you put into your tires is nitrogen. I've read that oxygen leaks out of tubes faster than nitrogen.

So if the first time you pump up your tire from 0 pressure you are putting 78% nitrogen 20% oxygen and a small percentage of other gasses. Because the oxygen leaks at a faster rate than the nitrogen the composition of the air in your tires will have a higher percentage nitrogen than oxygen (albeit at a lower pressure). Now when you pump up your tires again you're adding a volume of gas at that 80/20 ratio to a larger volume of gas at maybe a 90/10 oxy/nitrogen ratio. But because the oxygen is always leaking at a faster rate than the nitrogen the ratio of nitrogen/oxygen is constantly increasing. My guess is that it starts out at a ratio of around 80/20 like the atmosphere and maybe after a month you have a ratio of 95/5 nitrogen/oxygen.

Granted you can pump your tires up with 100% nitrogen right away if you want. But theoretically over time the composition of the air in your tubes should come close to 100% nitrogen.

kinda nice to know that atleast someone has a brain here....
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Nice use of periods. .. .. ...... PERIOD.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Oh brother. It's going to be a long winter...and technically it hasn't even started.

This is just the late fall preamble.
Save us. Please.
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