Building two Brompton clones
01-03-19, 11:09 AM
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see or Do?
Cut off , notch, add a QR band, then put a smaller tube inside, for adjustable height.. ?
It's what I have had, on both Bike Fridays... factory done.
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It's what I have had, on both Bike Fridays... factory done.
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01-03-19, 11:44 AM
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01-03-19, 11:55 AM
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I just wonder whether we are set for some version of the series such as
First foldie purchased in Singapore by this newbie
Cautionary tale - Flamingos (Brompton knockoffs)...
time to *sell* the Flamingo (Brompton-esque folder)
with my anticipation heightened when hearing about a glued nut. In any case there is no rush, if there is something to be learned we will hopefully learn it. For the moment we can seat ourselves comfortably
. Nail-biting of one sort or another may come later 
First foldie purchased in Singapore by this newbie
Cautionary tale - Flamingos (Brompton knockoffs)...
time to *sell* the Flamingo (Brompton-esque folder)
with my anticipation heightened when hearing about a glued nut. In any case there is no rush, if there is something to be learned we will hopefully learn it. For the moment we can seat ourselves comfortably
. Nail-biting of one sort or another may come later
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01-03-19, 12:21 PM
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Yes if they made them in China they would probably be half the price...
01-03-19, 03:10 PM
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That's easy, you just have to look! 
Eerder Metaal telescopische stuurpen voor Brompton
Eerder Metaal telescopische stuurpen voor Brompton
01-03-19, 03:47 PM
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But other than that I am not totally sure about the usefulness of this mod today. It was initially developed by Steve Parry in the 90ies to achieve front suspension (by using a suspended seat post as a stem) and straight bars. At that time only the M stem existed. Today there's S,P,M and H, so pretty much everybody can find a fitting factory stem. I even own such a modded stem, based on an old MK2 stem but did not use it until now.
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01-03-19, 05:19 PM
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I'd assume he could send you a modified new stem as well - but obviously this is far more expensive as you have to buy the stem. Just ask him.
But other than that I am not totally sure about the usefulness of this mod today. It was initially developed by Steve Parry in the 90ies to achieve front suspension (by using a suspended seat post as a stem) and straight bars. At that time only the M stem existed. Today there's S,P,M and H, so pretty much everybody can find a fitting factory stem. I even own such a modded stem, based on an old MK2 stem but did not use it until now.
But other than that I am not totally sure about the usefulness of this mod today. It was initially developed by Steve Parry in the 90ies to achieve front suspension (by using a suspended seat post as a stem) and straight bars. At that time only the M stem existed. Today there's S,P,M and H, so pretty much everybody can find a fitting factory stem. I even own such a modded stem, based on an old MK2 stem but did not use it until now.
01-03-19, 06:44 PM
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Hi Raxel. Where can one make special orders of a 1100 gram titanium frame? Can you share the link of the pics? Thanks!
01-03-19, 08:28 PM
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One thing to clarify - 3sixty bike is NOT a random noname clone. It has proper dealership and distribution network and covered by warranty, just like brompton.
Those sellers accept groupbuy with specific finish and tubing options (they are build to order, after all) and I guess lighter ones are made with slightly thinner tubings.
Those sellers accept groupbuy with specific finish and tubing options (they are build to order, after all) and I guess lighter ones are made with slightly thinner tubings.
01-04-19, 11:12 AM
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not German,
you could fly there with your bike , AMS airport is sell connected to surface transport, have a bunch of mods done , and fly back
01-04-19, 11:19 AM
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You know .... USA has personal injury lawyers to take a contingency % of the settlement, fees, no money down..
Users wont get it secured properly ride off and hurt themselves and blame the company
Rather than take personal responsibility ..
Users wont get it secured properly ride off and hurt themselves and blame the company
Rather than take personal responsibility ..
01-05-19, 11:14 PM
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Seeking advice
Hi, I tried to send a message but it won't let me. I recently got a Birdy Classic but realized I can't really take it to the bus with me, being on the bulky side. I'd like to seek your advice whether you would recommend the 3Sixty folding bike for someone who needs a bike for the first and last mile (around 3km each way). I planned to sell the Birdy to get a Brompton maybe but you know how expensive they can get. I'm thinking of getting the 3sixty and keep the Birdy. I've been seeing threads about the potential dangers about the rear weld etc but I'd like to take it from you since you've actually used it. What would be your recommendation? Have you also tried your builds on kind of rough roads?
Hoping to hear from you! Thanks!
Hoping to hear from you! Thanks!
01-06-19, 03:03 AM
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Also the bike has been available in my country for more than a year now(with quite a number of buyers) and had no issues so far.
On the other hand, I have seen many people reporting issues with their expensive Brompton CHPT3 edition (painting issues, tire bursting after days of riding, steerer tube deforming etc.) Potential dangers?
01-06-19, 03:59 AM
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No clue about CHPT3, but I have been over a number of new bikes, for myself, family or friends, and none has been as out-of-the-box reliable as either of our M6Rs. I am going through upgrades, but none of these has been forced on me, unlike with other bikes.
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The brazing line of 360 frame is not as clean as UK Brompton but it's total BS to call it dangerous. They use better material than UK one (4130 cro-mo vs cheap hi-tensile steel) and overall better components as well (one-piece crank, two bolt seatpost, CNC ez wheel etc).
Also the bike has been available in my country for more than a year now(with quite a number of buyers) and had no issues so far.
On the other hand, I have seen many people reporting issues with their expensive Brompton CHPT3 edition (painting issues, tire bursting after days of riding, steerer tube deforming etc.) Potential dangers?
Also the bike has been available in my country for more than a year now(with quite a number of buyers) and had no issues so far.
On the other hand, I have seen many people reporting issues with their expensive Brompton CHPT3 edition (painting issues, tire bursting after days of riding, steerer tube deforming etc.) Potential dangers?
01-08-19, 06:17 PM
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Ridiculous! There's no reason to not have an adjustable stem, except just because Brompton didn't want to.
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I really would like to ride a full Ti or a chromo Brompton to the point of seeing for myself the difference provided by the weight loss and shock absorbency of different frame models. On the other hand I thoroughly enjoy riding the one I have as is. I could list some changes that I'd like to see.... V brakes, the ability to run wider tires, a wider rear triangle for more gearing choices, but even so, it is still good. Being almost 70 I see this bike as lasting as least as long as I will and I have tinkered with it enough to be able to do all the maintenance it might require with the exception of the rear triangle hinge spindle and building wheels. I do look forward to the wheel building at some point but I'd rather pay to have the rear hinge done.
Brompton's Achilles heel has always been the weight, which Raxel addresses. Berlinonaut just doesn’t get it, or just doesn’t understand what is really at stake: Brompton's design is copied because it’s a good design. But NO ONE tries to copy its weight!
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Hi Raxel,
Where did you buy those 3sixty bikes?
I live in Europe i would like to buy one!
is it really more cheap than a Brompton?
They've cutted any corners when building the bike?
They use hub for the 3 speeds version of they use "normal gears"?
Thank you!
Where did you buy those 3sixty bikes?
I live in Europe i would like to buy one!
is it really more cheap than a Brompton?
They've cutted any corners when building the bike?
They use hub for the 3 speeds version of they use "normal gears"?
Thank you!
04-04-19, 03:40 AM
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Smaller size of the rider, not the parts. 
I did not say anything about the build quality or that parts made in Asia would generally be of bad quality as this would be absurd. Just that the designers sometimes seem to have only/mainly their home-audience in mind - very much the same issue as the sunglasses-example you are mentioning.
I did not say anything about the build quality or that parts made in Asia would generally be of bad quality as this would be absurd. Just that the designers sometimes seem to have only/mainly their home-audience in mind - very much the same issue as the sunglasses-example you are mentioning.
04-04-19, 03:45 AM
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07-14-19, 08:26 PM
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I'm currently working on building two Brompton clones (Actually done building the first one, and transferring parts to the second frame for now). Two have slightly different dimensions (3sixty one is a copy of old Taiwan Brompton and EasyTi is based on current Brompton) but most parts are compatible.
3sixty.kr
Neobike is the one from Taiwan, not 3Sixty.
07-14-19, 11:19 PM
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I would like to say that the tubular material used and the welding/brazing details should be evaluated separately.
You may have good material properties for the tubular, but shoddy welding/brazing may result in breakage. (Case in point are the Tern failures.)
You may have good material properties for the tubular, but shoddy welding/brazing may result in breakage. (Case in point are the Tern failures.)
04-25-20, 01:15 AM
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Is the motor chinese bafang motor? I thought they did internal development with Williaams F1?
At the end of the day, it all about the ride. With such a small wheel, I doubt that the CG will be that much higher than if placed at bb. I have never ridden the e-brompton, so I have no idea how it rides. But with the motor config on front wheel, I think its possible to swap out the wheel and put a normal wheel so you can still use it like a normal brompton. Don't know whether you can take out the battery and used the bag for groceries though.
To do motor at bb, will mean a totally new and different bike. (Like Bosch config.) Just imagine the domino effects of trying to keep track of inventory, spare parts etc.
At the end of the day, it all about the ride. With such a small wheel, I doubt that the CG will be that much higher than if placed at bb. I have never ridden the e-brompton, so I have no idea how it rides. But with the motor config on front wheel, I think its possible to swap out the wheel and put a normal wheel so you can still use it like a normal brompton. Don't know whether you can take out the battery and used the bag for groceries though.
To do motor at bb, will mean a totally new and different bike. (Like Bosch config.) Just imagine the domino effects of trying to keep track of inventory, spare parts etc.
