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Old 11-30-18, 12:18 AM
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What chassis weight are you comfortable with ...

I'm old now (70+), so no more yahoo down hill for me. Or any off-road motorcycle. Can't afford to get off hard, may not walk away. So my MTB's have morphed into dirt and gravel ready cruisers more than adventure bikes. I still like suspension and a modestly plush saddle, and I need a rack for lunch/camera bag, etc.So my lightest trail cruiser is the K2 (alloy frame, carbon swing arm) at 30 lbs. It feels light to me, but not as light as when I bought it with serious weight weenie parts all over it. Adding the saddle, rack and road tough tires took its weight toll. Still a responsive ride

I'm guessing I'm prolly OK with MTB style bikes in the 26 to 32 lbs ranges. I don't have any pure road bikes anymore. Can't spend that amount of time bent over the bars ... Only have one steel bike left. A cromo Trek hybrid from years ago. Don't have a weight on it as it's hanging for winter storage.

What are you'all comfy with?
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Old 11-30-18, 06:41 AM
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I prefer under 30, but my commuter bike this winter with the rear racks, fenders, attached lights, and the brick-heavy Nokian tires feels more like 32 or 33 right now. I do not have a scale, so can't be certain.
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Old 11-30-18, 08:18 AM
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As light as possible.
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Old 11-30-18, 08:19 AM
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Well I get that, but Ti on trail bike is pretty expensive ... Dual air forks vs spring is usually pretty expensive too (but I do love air suspension) ...

Alloy cassettes don't last long and they cost (for ex), so just trying to get a perspective on what folks feel comfy with? At some point they'll quit spending money in the pursuit of lighter ...

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Old 11-30-18, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BrocLuno
What are you'all comfy with?
How much do you weigh?
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Old 11-30-18, 03:29 PM
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This approaching-old fellow (almost 69) is happy with a 26 pound long wheelbase ti recumbent. Wish our tandem were only ten pounds heavier than that, instead of twenty pounds heavier.
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Old 11-30-18, 03:35 PM
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For mountain bikes, I prefer a bike in the 25 lb range, but I'm all about durability and will sacrifice some weight savings in exchange for stuff not breaking or wearing out. Anything under 30 is a perfectly reasonable weight, IMO. For a road bike, I like to keep it under 20.

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Old 11-30-18, 03:54 PM
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When I raced in the 90's, 23lbs was pretty much the standard target weight for cross country bikes. The average decent bike was maybe 25-28. 30lbs would have been horrible.

I bought this a year ago for only $389 and it weighs 25lbs. With a high end fork I could get it to 23.

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My chassis has more padding at 70 than it did at 35, around 1982..
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
When I raced in the 90's, 23lbs was pretty much the standard target weight for cross country bikes. The average decent bike was maybe 25-28. 30lbs would have been horrible.

I bought this a year ago for only $389 and it weighs 25lbs. With a high end fork I could get it to 23.

You must have gotten some super-duper special variant. "Weight: 28.5lbs (Size 17")"

https://www.randombikeparts.com/prod...x-10s-blue-new

p.s. Someone with the exact same bike as the one in the picture you posted weighed it at "exactly 28lbs without pedals"

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Old 11-30-18, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ogmtb
You must have gotten some super-duper special variant. "Weight: 28.5lbs (Size 17")"

https://www.randombikeparts.com/prod...x-10s-blue-new
No, snobbish one, I got one I weighed myself. And no I didn't include the reflectors or the pedals it came with that weigh 319g each. And yes I did weigh it with a light saddle I already had and not the monstrosity it came with. I hope that's okay with you.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
No, snobbish one, I got one I weighed myself. And no I didn't include the reflectors or the pedals it came with that weigh 319g each. And yes I did weigh it with a light saddle I already had and not the monstrosity it came with. I hope that's okay with you.
Hmmm...why the name calling? Why is pointing out that you are touting two different weights on two different forums "snobbish"?

You can't seem to keep your story straight, except the part about swapping the saddle. You did post the same picture though which made it easy to see that your bike isn't 25lbs, as you have falsely claimed. Anyone with a decent amount of MTB experience could tell at first glance that a low end HT as pictured isn't going to be 25lbs.

"In case anyone is interested, I got it today. weighed exactly 28lbs without pedals. I put on a saddle I already had and chopped another 1/4lb off."
https://forums.mtbr.com/26er-bikes/o...l#post13375827

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Yeah, pedal weight is all over the place. Almost 400 gm for some, 125 for others. I have three sets of lightweights coming

Ditto seat weight. Light saddles are nice for climbing, but can get tiring for hours at more upright sitting. That's a tricky one - balancing comfort vs weight. The older I get, the more I'll sacrifice a bit of weight for a bit more memory foam.

Right now I have a Velo Plush on there, and it's a bit porky. Ditto the inexpensive Schwinn seat post rack. I could easily take more than a lb off if I changed that stuff. But skeletal racks don't work on rear suspension bikes. All my hardtails have them tough.

I agree with the posters above who find 30 lbs a good target. Bikes seem much more responsive and fun when you get down to that point, and below
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I[m 72 but son[t consider myself "old." I ride an 18 lb.steel Guru road bike and am enjoying being on the bike on my terms. We do what we do and we are what we tell ourselves we are.
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My lightest bike is 21lbs, my heaviest is 28lbs, but it was once 35lbs. Id prefer anything under 25lbs as I have to lug it up and down stairs every ride.
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Ah yes, the stairs lug ... When I was young, dragging my Raleigh up the stairs was nothing. Now that I have almost 3/4 of a century, it's a bit more complicated ...

I think 28 lbs is a great target weight for an every day general purpose bike
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Old 12-04-18, 08:31 AM
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Most of my bikes are 25-30#ish. I don't pay too much attention to weights.
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I really don't know the weight of any of my bikes. Some feel lighter than others, and I'd guess that they are, in fact, lighter.

I weighted my hardtail MTB once and if I remember, it was under 30 lbs fully equipped. But don't hold me to that.

Now that I read this thread, I'd really like to know what my bikes weigh. Maybe a FedEx registered letter to the North Pole will land a scale in my stocking...
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Old 12-04-18, 10:25 AM
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My Salsa Vaya Ti, 57cm, weighs 22 lbs, sans pedals. That's with a Jones H Bar and a Brooks Cambrium saddle and 42mm tires. It's the perfect weight for my gravel rides and then train rides home. I wouldn't want anything heavier. I love the thing to death. It's a beast in the gravel, dirt and rocks. I want to be buried with it........in a hundred years, as the Eyetalians say.
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Seems to me 22# is pretty light for most dirt oriented bikes. I'd take that any day
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