Quickstep Rode Tubeless And Won
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Quickstep Rode Tubeless And Won
So I was listening to a recap of the race the announcer said the whole team was on clinchers. I assume he was referring to tubeless given the race was a spring classic and there cobbled sections. Pretty significant that they also won in that setup.
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The team had committed to tubed clinchers for the ‘21 season, but there was some uncertainty around the classics, so yeah, you could be right about tubeless.
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"Rode" and "Road" - gotta love English
It was my understanding that quickstep was running tubeless clinchers but they were still using inner tubes instead of full tubeless. Education First was also running tubeless last year with prototype foam inserts.
It was my understanding that quickstep was running tubeless clinchers but they were still using inner tubes instead of full tubeless. Education First was also running tubeless last year with prototype foam inserts.
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If they're riding clinchers anyway, what would be the disadvantage of setting them up tubeless? Isn't the rolling resistance on tubeless generally better than tubed?
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Generally, but with the right combination of tire and latex tube, the clincher could eek ahead. Specialized thinks that their Turbo Cottons are the fastest things around and they're so confident in them that their new high-end wheels don't support tubeless and opt for lighter weight, instead IIRC.
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Generally, but with the right combination of tire and latex tube, the clincher could eek ahead. Specialized thinks that their Turbo Cottons are the fastest things around and they're so confident in them that their new high-end wheels don't support tubeless and opt for lighter weight, instead IIRC.
I assume for races where they run the Rapid Air instead, they use a different wheelset that's tubeless, or are they running those tires with tubes on the same wheels?
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The main benefit to Tubs are if you puncture you can still ride on a flat till you can get service, with a clincher the tyre comes off and you're on the rim. All the test will come out in favour of the manufacturer as to who has the fastest tyre, whether it's Conti, Michelin, Pirrelli, Spesh, Schwable and all the tests ore done on a nice indoor rig. In the real world and the road there's too many variables with surface, air pressure, humidity, wind direction and rim profile for a difinitive answer. Anyway Tubs feel better than clinchers and sound better
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Pfft - I don't know. Honestly, I really don't understand why they say that their Rapide CLX aren't tubeless compatible. I mean, they say that tubeless exerts more pressure and that the Rapide aren't built to withstand that pressure, but I'm not following how they can handle 120psi if it's in a tube but not when it's tubeless.
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That said, there’s a lot of unclear messaging going on just in the article I posted upthread alone, so it’s not at all clear to me that we know what the situation actually is. I can easily imagine that the RapidAir tubeless might be constructed to be more of a poor conditions or perhaps wet weather performer, and the Turbo Cotton clincher the max performance dry tire. However, the article made it seem that the team may not have use RapidAir on the race cobbles, so does that mean they ran tubulars despite the assertions they’re all clincher this season? Or that they ran the Turbo Cotton for that section but will use RapidAir tubeless generally? Or that they ran the RapidAir tubed for the cobbles, perhaps because the new Specialized wheels aren’t tubeless compatible?
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Tubeless are clinchers too right? I suppose tubular tires might could be tubeless if someone makes them. Never looked, are there tubeless tubulars?
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The main benefit to Tubs are if you puncture you can still ride on a flat till you can get service, with a clincher the tyre comes off and you're on the rim. All the test will come out in favour of the manufacturer as to who has the fastest tyre, whether it's Conti, Michelin, Pirrelli, Spesh, Schwable and all the tests ore done on a nice indoor rig. In the real world and the road there's too many variables with surface, air pressure, humidity, wind direction and rim profile for a difinitive answer. Anyway Tubs feel better than clinchers and sound better
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They are supposedly less prone to pinch flatting, and sealant can help seal up small cuts/holes like a standard tubeless tire, but they don't need sealant. I've never added sealant to mine, which are now 2 years old, and they hold air fine.
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The main benefit to Tubs are if you puncture you can still ride on a flat till you can get service, with a clincher the tyre comes off and you're on the rim. All the test will come out in favour of the manufacturer as to who has the fastest tyre, whether it's Conti, Michelin, Pirrelli, Spesh, Schwable and all the tests ore done on a nice indoor rig. In the real world and the road there's too many variables with surface, air pressure, humidity, wind direction and rim profile for a difinitive answer. Anyway Tubs feel better than clinchers and sound better
I have a feeling if it weren't for sponsor input, pro teams would be on tubulars 100% of the time. The downsides to tubulars (cost, setup hassle, more complicated/impossible roadside fixes) are all negated by having huge budgets, pro mechanics and team cars.
I'd be curious to know if any pro riders actually prefer the Turbo Cotton (with tubes) over a tubular setup. Pro riders probably all hate tubeless because the casings are a little stiffer.
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Also aren't tubular wheelsets lighter than clinchers?
I have a feeling if it weren't for sponsor input, pro teams would be on tubulars 100% of the time. The downsides to tubulars (cost, setup hassle, more complicated/impossible roadside fixes) are all negated by having huge budgets, pro mechanics and team cars.
I'd be curious to know if any pro riders actually prefer the Turbo Cotton (with tubes) over a tubular setup. Pro riders probably all hate tubeless because the casings are a little stiffer.
I have a feeling if it weren't for sponsor input, pro teams would be on tubulars 100% of the time. The downsides to tubulars (cost, setup hassle, more complicated/impossible roadside fixes) are all negated by having huge budgets, pro mechanics and team cars.
I'd be curious to know if any pro riders actually prefer the Turbo Cotton (with tubes) over a tubular setup. Pro riders probably all hate tubeless because the casings are a little stiffer.
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The main benefit to Tubs are if you puncture you can still ride on a flat till you can get service, with a clincher the tyre comes off and you're on the rim. All the test will come out in favour of the manufacturer as to who has the fastest tyre, whether it's Conti, Michelin, Pirrelli, Spesh, Schwable and all the tests ore done on a nice indoor rig. In the real world and the road there's too many variables with surface, air pressure, humidity, wind direction and rim profile for a difinitive answer. Anyway Tubs feel better than clinchers and sound better