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Here is an interesting article on aging in the NYT.
The basic premise is age is a mindset and with psychological intervention, people turn back the hands of time.
Below is an excerpt. I am off for a 3 hour ride.
"To Langer, this was evidence that the biomedical model of the day — that the mind and the body are on separate tracks — was wrongheaded. The belief was that “the only way to get sick is through the introduction of a pathogen, and the only way to get well is to get rid of it,” she said, when we met at her office in Cambridge in December. She came to think that what people needed to heal themselves was a psychological “prime” — something that triggered the body to take curative measures all by itself. Gathering the older men together in New Hampshire, for what she would later refer to as a counterclockwise study, would be a way to test this premise.
The men in the experimental group were told not merely to reminisce about this earlier era, but to inhabit it — to “make a psychological attempt to be the person they were 22 years ago,” she told me. “We have good reason to believe that if you are successful at this,” Langer told the men, “you will feel as you did in 1959.” From the time they walked through the doors, they were treated as if they were younger. The men were told that they would have to take their belongings upstairs themselves, even if they had to do it one shirt at a time.
Each day, as they discussed sports (Johnny Unitas and Wilt Chamberlain) or “current” events (the first U.S. satellite launch) or dissected the movie they just watched (“Anatomy of a Murder,” with Jimmy Stewart), they spoke about these late-'50s artifacts and events in the present tense — one of Langer’s chief priming strategies. Nothing — no mirrors, no modern-day clothing, no photos except portraits of their much younger selves — spoiled the illusion that they had shaken off 22 years.
At the end of their stay, the men were tested again. On several measures, they outperformed a control group that came earlier to the monastery but didn’t imagine themselves back into the skin of their younger selves, though they were encouraged to reminisce. They were suppler, showed greater manual dexterity and sat taller — just as Langer had guessed. Perhaps most improbable, their sight improved. Independent judges said they looked younger. The experimental subjects, Langer told me, had “put their mind in an earlier time,” and their bodies went along for the ride.
The basic premise is age is a mindset and with psychological intervention, people turn back the hands of time.
Below is an excerpt. I am off for a 3 hour ride.
"To Langer, this was evidence that the biomedical model of the day — that the mind and the body are on separate tracks — was wrongheaded. The belief was that “the only way to get sick is through the introduction of a pathogen, and the only way to get well is to get rid of it,” she said, when we met at her office in Cambridge in December. She came to think that what people needed to heal themselves was a psychological “prime” — something that triggered the body to take curative measures all by itself. Gathering the older men together in New Hampshire, for what she would later refer to as a counterclockwise study, would be a way to test this premise.
The men in the experimental group were told not merely to reminisce about this earlier era, but to inhabit it — to “make a psychological attempt to be the person they were 22 years ago,” she told me. “We have good reason to believe that if you are successful at this,” Langer told the men, “you will feel as you did in 1959.” From the time they walked through the doors, they were treated as if they were younger. The men were told that they would have to take their belongings upstairs themselves, even if they had to do it one shirt at a time.
Each day, as they discussed sports (Johnny Unitas and Wilt Chamberlain) or “current” events (the first U.S. satellite launch) or dissected the movie they just watched (“Anatomy of a Murder,” with Jimmy Stewart), they spoke about these late-'50s artifacts and events in the present tense — one of Langer’s chief priming strategies. Nothing — no mirrors, no modern-day clothing, no photos except portraits of their much younger selves — spoiled the illusion that they had shaken off 22 years.
At the end of their stay, the men were tested again. On several measures, they outperformed a control group that came earlier to the monastery but didn’t imagine themselves back into the skin of their younger selves, though they were encouraged to reminisce. They were suppler, showed greater manual dexterity and sat taller — just as Langer had guessed. Perhaps most improbable, their sight improved. Independent judges said they looked younger. The experimental subjects, Langer told me, had “put their mind in an earlier time,” and their bodies went along for the ride.
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Sweet little 32 mile ride before dawn today. Both the Princes are back, it was nice to ride all three of us again.
Its unbelievable what coach wants BE to eat on these rides. Today was a pretty easy effort, just 2hr of endurance miles. Anything over 1.5 hours, he wants me eating/drinking the 1 pkg Cliff Bloks + 1bottle Skratch formula, plus drinking a chocolate milk after.
So I wound up consuming 485 cal on the ride plus 200 after, for a grand total of 685 cal in. The ride burned 800 calories. It seems crazy but he could not be more clear about all this. Part is what you actually need to do the ride, part is setting yourself up for you next ride & part is practicing eating & drinking on the bike for these longer rides where nutrition/hydration is a make-or-break aspect of the ride.
Its unbelievable what coach wants BE to eat on these rides. Today was a pretty easy effort, just 2hr of endurance miles. Anything over 1.5 hours, he wants me eating/drinking the 1 pkg Cliff Bloks + 1bottle Skratch formula, plus drinking a chocolate milk after.
So I wound up consuming 485 cal on the ride plus 200 after, for a grand total of 685 cal in. The ride burned 800 calories. It seems crazy but he could not be more clear about all this. Part is what you actually need to do the ride, part is setting yourself up for you next ride & part is practicing eating & drinking on the bike for these longer rides where nutrition/hydration is a make-or-break aspect of the ride.
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Well, the "action zone" nonsense is a modern exaggeration of the vintage ad. Sansabelt slacks were very popular among denizens of Florida golf courses and the early bird special at Bob Evans' in the 70s and 80s.
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Shooting in Canadian Govt building - are they trying to reclaim the "America Jr" moniker?
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Seems like the geriatric equivalent of "toughskins," which I HATED as a kid in the 1970's.
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38ish miles today, during which I heard the most alarming loud, grinding/squealing noise from my bike. After recovering from the reflexive "brace for crabon aspolsion" reaction, I saw that it was a leaf stuck in my fork. Damn leaves.
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Also on the ride today, saw a guy moseying along on a beautiful Giant with deep dish (I know how some of you love that term in this context) carbon wheels. He looked like he was dressed in three layers of sweats and was wearing a hoodie a la Kenny from Southpark.