"...break a lot of spokes!"
04-15-17, 11:43 AM
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"...break a lot of spokes!"
Spiduhman emerges from lurkmode to share a quote; me stopped, ostensibly, to offer assistance to a group of riders dealing with a mechanical, but mainly to chat - the wind, Fridays are all good, Good Friday is better, etc.
... I offer, "Nice Wheel" which elicits the full pedigree of said wheel, topped by:
"With legs like these, I break a lot of spokes."
... I offer, "Nice Wheel" which elicits the full pedigree of said wheel, topped by:
"With legs like these, I break a lot of spokes."
04-15-17, 11:55 AM
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Another example of lemonade from unwanted lemons.
Have mechanical problems? Chalk them up to you being an ANIMAL.
Have mechanical problems? Chalk them up to you being an ANIMAL.
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Think of it this way. Once you replace 36 cheap spokes with good spokes, you'll have the equivalent of a new wheel. 
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Spiduhman emerges from lurkmode to share a quote; me stopped, ostensibly, to offer assistance to a group of riders dealing with a mechanical, but mainly to chat - the wind, Fridays are all good, Good Friday is better, etc.
... I offer, "Nice Wheel" which elicits the full pedigree of said wheel, topped by:
"With legs like these, I break a lot of spokes."
... I offer, "Nice Wheel" which elicits the full pedigree of said wheel, topped by:
"With legs like these, I break a lot of spokes."
Do you realize that your 666th posting coincides with Easter? Do these vectors cancel each other out or are you doomed?
04-15-17, 03:54 PM
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I thought it was kind of funny - as ridiculous an "explanation" as I'd be likely to invent, anyhow. What else would be say? "Yeah, but obviously I wasted my money because they're garbage?"
04-15-17, 04:10 PM
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The fixed gear crowd often says they "need" the thicker track chain because they are pedaling so hard.
Most ridiculous thing I've heard until the OP's anecdote.
Most ridiculous thing I've heard until the OP's anecdote.
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Yah, me doomed.
Just in case someone finds this when looking for "why spokes break?" - here's some real reasons:
Poorly built wheel.
Wheel doesn't match application.
Damaged wheel.
Now some detail for each:
Damaged
Some overlap with "poorly built" - for a wheel that's lost tension due to nipples unwinding IS "damaged" - or soon will be - depends on your definition.
...from there, well, carefully inspect the entire rig very frequently; this can be done while cleaning. For wheels, look for cracked rim, cracked hub, bulges, enlarged holes in the hub flanges, loose spokes, nicked or bent spokes, wheel hop and run out. Check for loose spokes. Check again.
Doesn't match application
Wheel suppliers spec weight limits for a reason, however, there's more to it.
"Fast" vs. "reliable" is related to, but not same as, meticulous attention to maintenance vs. f'ing lazy - extremes define the continuum.
Simply put, if one wheelset has to do it all, then the most demanding activity specs the wheel.
Heavy riders need more robust equipment.
Riders who are rough on gear (err, who don't know how to ride) really really need more robust equipment.
Often, wheels included with factory models suck - just depends how.
Maintenance matters.
Poorly built
Here's the rub.
A wheel that WAS properly tensioned, stress relieved, etc. - a "good" wheel - can go bad, as the nipples unwind. One may argue that "if the nipples unwind, then the wheel was poorly built" - ok.
A wheel that is just - just - tensioned enough to run well will unwind easier than a wheel that's tensioned enough to stay there (w/o being OVER tensioned).
Over "special" spokes? low spoke counts? half radial rear wheel? wrong spokes? No? Well, there you go.
I finally did just give up (so many disappointments) and did the research, observed some people who know something, worked with same - guided practice - then plunged into building and maintaining my own.
So, I don't see (now), any reason to:
build a rear wheel with same spoke on both sides,
use anything other than a jbend,
do any radial on the rear,
ever have someone else build up, repair, respoke, retension/true any wheel for me EVER again.
Advice then, if not yourself, find a reliable builder who will build you reasonable wheel that fits your needs.
...not sell you on "...with THOSE LEGS..." or whatever you want to hear.
That is all.
Just in case someone finds this when looking for "why spokes break?" - here's some real reasons:
Poorly built wheel.
Wheel doesn't match application.
Damaged wheel.
Now some detail for each:
Damaged
Some overlap with "poorly built" - for a wheel that's lost tension due to nipples unwinding IS "damaged" - or soon will be - depends on your definition.
...from there, well, carefully inspect the entire rig very frequently; this can be done while cleaning. For wheels, look for cracked rim, cracked hub, bulges, enlarged holes in the hub flanges, loose spokes, nicked or bent spokes, wheel hop and run out. Check for loose spokes. Check again.
Doesn't match application
Wheel suppliers spec weight limits for a reason, however, there's more to it.
"Fast" vs. "reliable" is related to, but not same as, meticulous attention to maintenance vs. f'ing lazy - extremes define the continuum.
Simply put, if one wheelset has to do it all, then the most demanding activity specs the wheel.
Heavy riders need more robust equipment.
Riders who are rough on gear (err, who don't know how to ride) really really need more robust equipment.
Often, wheels included with factory models suck - just depends how.
Maintenance matters.
Poorly built
Here's the rub.
A wheel that WAS properly tensioned, stress relieved, etc. - a "good" wheel - can go bad, as the nipples unwind. One may argue that "if the nipples unwind, then the wheel was poorly built" - ok.
A wheel that is just - just - tensioned enough to run well will unwind easier than a wheel that's tensioned enough to stay there (w/o being OVER tensioned).
Over "special" spokes? low spoke counts? half radial rear wheel? wrong spokes? No? Well, there you go.
I finally did just give up (so many disappointments) and did the research, observed some people who know something, worked with same - guided practice - then plunged into building and maintaining my own.
So, I don't see (now), any reason to:
build a rear wheel with same spoke on both sides,
use anything other than a jbend,
do any radial on the rear,
ever have someone else build up, repair, respoke, retension/true any wheel for me EVER again.
Advice then, if not yourself, find a reliable builder who will build you reasonable wheel that fits your needs.
...not sell you on "...with THOSE LEGS..." or whatever you want to hear.
That is all.
04-18-17, 08:14 PM
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Spiduhman emerges from lurkmode to share a quote; me stopped, ostensibly, to offer assistance to a group of riders dealing with a mechanical, but mainly to chat - the wind, Fridays are all good, Good Friday is better, etc.
... I offer, "Nice Wheel" which elicits the full pedigree of said wheel, topped by:
"With legs like these, I break a lot of spokes."
... I offer, "Nice Wheel" which elicits the full pedigree of said wheel, topped by:
"With legs like these, I break a lot of spokes."
"Once you POP, you can't stop"?
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04-18-17, 10:33 PM
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Yeah, Tom Boonen was snapping spokes left and right. Just an animal. Spec breathed sighs of relief when he retired.
04-19-17, 12:30 AM
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Next time, tell them you get a lot of flats because the air in your tires can't keep up with you.
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... and that's why you only dial it up to 400 Watts to drope the hamer on the MUP when someone is trying to steal your draft. Just watch out for little girls.
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