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Old 12-23-16, 11:38 AM
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Can Campgonolo 10sp shifters work with Shimano derailleurs?

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Can Campgonolo 10sp shifters work with 11sp Shimano 105 front derailleur and 10sp SRAM Rival rear derailleur?
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With a device like a Jtek Shiftmate of orther cable converter, yes. Or run 10 speed campy with 8 speed Shimano cassette for a Shimergo setup. However you cannot run it in the way you are describing.
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This article covers everything you need to know.

Art's Cyclery Blog » Science Behind the Magic | Drivetrain Compatibility
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Originally Posted by NachosGrande
Hello,

I tried the search, but nothing came up for this question:
Can Campgonolo 10sp shifters work with 11sp Shimano 105 front derailleur and 10sp SRAM Rival rear derailleur?
No. The front would work in the sense it goes up and down, but it would be way off practically speaking. SRAM's 1:1 system doesn't work with anything else. You used to be able to use a jtec shiftmate to force some combinations to work but those are now hard to find. With a Campagnolo 10 speed system you can do the following:
-use a Shimano 7-10 speed rear derailleur and 10 speed front derailleur for a 2x8 Shimano drivetrain. (A popular CX hack)

-use a Campagnolo 8 speed indexing derailleur with 10 speed Campagnolo jockey wheels and a Campagnolo or Shimano 10 speed front derailleur on a 10 speed Shimano drivetrain. (This works on paper and ok in practice but it can be a little vague in practice, the bike that's permanently on my trainer is set up this way and it has a sticky shift each direction but it works)

There are alternative ways of routing and clamping cables through derailleurs that adjust pull rates to be "close enough", but they're often very dependent on the specifics of your setup to function properly, so I hesitate to recommend them.
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Thanks CafeVelo
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Can you run Campy shifters with a SRAM drivetrain? Sure, why not? | VeloNews.com Check this article out for using SRAM rear derailleur w/10 speed Ergo shifters. Jtek now owned by SJS Cycles in UK- google for more info on whether this system will help for rear derailleur. Sorry, no idea about the front derailleur.
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Originally Posted by NachosGrande
Hello,

I tried the search, but nothing came up for this question:
Can Campgonolo 10sp shifters work with 11sp Shimano 105 front derailleur and 10sp SRAM Rival rear derailleur?
Front will probably work OK.

Rear won't. Both SRAM and Shimano design RDs for the same ammount of cable pulled for each gear change (shifter click). Sram pulls 3.1 mm with Rival. Campagnolo, however:

Campagnolo 10 speed: there is more cable pull for “slower” speeds, than there is for the others. 2.5 mm pull five times (from smallest 1st to the 6th sprocket), 3 mm for 7th and 8th, then 3.5 mm for 9th and 10th. 2.83 mm average cable pull per click


7) Bicycle rear shifter compatibility - Cycle Gremlin
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