flar bar with bar ends and bar middles (image)
02-19-12, 12:40 PM
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flar bar with bar ends and bar middles (image)
Been going back and forth between flat bar fitness bike (Jamis Coda for example) versus a cyclocross bike for urban commuting and charity rides.
Anyway have a setup like Sheldon did on a flat bar bike?
https://sheldonbrown.org/iro/584/pages/07.htm
Using bar ends and a set he called "bar middles" inboard of the grips for a more aero position.
Anyway have a setup like Sheldon did on a flat bar bike?
https://sheldonbrown.org/iro/584/pages/07.htm
Using bar ends and a set he called "bar middles" inboard of the grips for a more aero position.
02-19-12, 01:00 PM
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That'll work just fine, though many find the limited sweep angle of typical flat bars to be unnatural for the wrists. Good ergonomic grips help tremendously (Ergon offers many good options).
To be honest, you can get a very good aero "tuck" on any handlebar. On flat bars, simply place the hands closer to the stem, bend down, and tuck your elbows in. Note that this is similar to the "most aero" position that a road cyclist can get (more aero than when in the drops) - watch videos of pros descending mountains and you'll see what I mean. For longer rides, the position when on the outer bar-ends is similar to riding on the hoods of a conventional drop bar (depending on the width you cut your flat bar).
Some handlebar options to consider, since you're considering alternatives:
Flat bar alternatives with more sweep/similar options for aero positioning: There are MANY alternatives, depending on your own preferences and physiology. Some samples:
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/condorina-bar
https://www.profile-design.com/titec/...rs-/h-bar.html
https://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html
https://surlybikes.com/parts/open_bar (can be installed upside down to give a shallow drop instead of a rise)
An alternative to the typical "drop" bar is the "dirt" drop bar:
less forward reach, shallower drop, flared drops.
- https://salsacycles.com/components/moto_ace_woodchipper/
- https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMI/o...idge_handlebar
- https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/junebug-bar
To be honest, you can get a very good aero "tuck" on any handlebar. On flat bars, simply place the hands closer to the stem, bend down, and tuck your elbows in. Note that this is similar to the "most aero" position that a road cyclist can get (more aero than when in the drops) - watch videos of pros descending mountains and you'll see what I mean. For longer rides, the position when on the outer bar-ends is similar to riding on the hoods of a conventional drop bar (depending on the width you cut your flat bar).
Some handlebar options to consider, since you're considering alternatives:
Flat bar alternatives with more sweep/similar options for aero positioning: There are MANY alternatives, depending on your own preferences and physiology. Some samples:
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/condorina-bar
https://www.profile-design.com/titec/...rs-/h-bar.html
https://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html
https://surlybikes.com/parts/open_bar (can be installed upside down to give a shallow drop instead of a rise)
An alternative to the typical "drop" bar is the "dirt" drop bar:
less forward reach, shallower drop, flared drops.
- https://salsacycles.com/components/moto_ace_woodchipper/
- https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMI/o...idge_handlebar
- https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/junebug-bar
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02-19-12, 04:54 PM
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I dont have bar-end shifters, but this is my setup. The middle bars dont need to be as long for me, but that's what I had kickin' around. They work well, but I dont really get too aero too often....(my enormous belly gets in the way!)
02-19-12, 07:06 PM
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That'll work just fine, though many find the limited sweep angle of typical flat bars to be unnatural for the wrists. Good ergonomic grips help tremendously (Ergon offers many good options).
To be honest, you can get a very good aero "tuck" on any handlebar. On flat bars, simply place the hands closer to the stem, bend down, and tuck your elbows in. Note that this is similar to the "most aero" position that a road cyclist can get (more aero than when in the drops) - watch videos of pros descending mountains and you'll see what I mean. For longer rides, the position when on the outer bar-ends is similar to riding on the hoods of a conventional drop bar (depending on the width you cut your flat bar).
Some handlebar options to consider, since you're considering alternatives:
Flat bar alternatives with more sweep/similar options for aero positioning: There are MANY alternatives, depending on your own preferences and physiology. Some samples:
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/condorina-bar
https://www.profile-design.com/titec/...rs-/h-bar.html
https://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html
https://surlybikes.com/parts/open_bar (can be installed upside down to give a shallow drop instead of a rise)
An alternative to the typical "drop" bar is the "dirt" drop bar:
less forward reach, shallower drop, flared drops.
- https://salsacycles.com/components/moto_ace_woodchipper/
- https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMI/o...idge_handlebar
- https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/junebug-bar
To be honest, you can get a very good aero "tuck" on any handlebar. On flat bars, simply place the hands closer to the stem, bend down, and tuck your elbows in. Note that this is similar to the "most aero" position that a road cyclist can get (more aero than when in the drops) - watch videos of pros descending mountains and you'll see what I mean. For longer rides, the position when on the outer bar-ends is similar to riding on the hoods of a conventional drop bar (depending on the width you cut your flat bar).
Some handlebar options to consider, since you're considering alternatives:
Flat bar alternatives with more sweep/similar options for aero positioning: There are MANY alternatives, depending on your own preferences and physiology. Some samples:
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/condorina-bar
https://www.profile-design.com/titec/...rs-/h-bar.html
https://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html
https://surlybikes.com/parts/open_bar (can be installed upside down to give a shallow drop instead of a rise)
An alternative to the typical "drop" bar is the "dirt" drop bar:
less forward reach, shallower drop, flared drops.
- https://salsacycles.com/components/moto_ace_woodchipper/
- https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMI/o...idge_handlebar
- https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/junebug-bar
And considered most of the bars listed above myself. Unfortunately most of them limit what controls can be mounted on the bars as well as the width the bars can be trimmed to. I ended up with flat bars and Ergon GC3 barends which on shortened flat bars, give me a riding position almost identical to riding on the hoods on a roadbike.
02-20-12, 07:56 AM
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For those using bar ends to gain an extra hand position on flat bars, here's a little known fact I've found very useful on one of my bikes:
Old steel bar ends, have thin enough walls that time trial style reverse brake levers can plug into the ends. Being able to brake from the bar ends is awesome.
its a shame all the modern bar ends are thick tubed aluminum...
Old steel bar ends, have thin enough walls that time trial style reverse brake levers can plug into the ends. Being able to brake from the bar ends is awesome.
its a shame all the modern bar ends are thick tubed aluminum...
02-22-12, 06:14 PM
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Tried out a Jamis Coda and Allegro, as well as the Fuji Absolute 3.0. All were fun, liked the Coda the best. All were more upright than the current mountain bike, but it looks like I can lower stem/flip it fairly easily.
02-22-12, 06:42 PM
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I have a strange version of dirt drops on my MTB commuter. They actually work pretty well, despite their ugliness. Lower and narrower than the flat bar and I can brake and (sort of) shift from there too.
02-29-12, 10:29 AM
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Ended up with a leftover Coda Sport... Thanks for the advice/images, will be looking into bringing over my current bar ends, and looking into what I can do for an additional location over the next month or two...
02-29-12, 10:40 AM
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^ you could be really silly like me and slap some areobars on your flat bar hybrid. together with the ergon GC3s, i've got a several really comfortable hand positions on this bike and a couple ways to get more aero on windy days.
02-29-12, 10:46 AM
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Trekking bars take Straight bar controls as they are, both being 7/8"..22.2.
the figure 8 bend offers a near and far bar and a side bar end. all out of the same tube-bend.
My brakes and shifting goes on the open , rear center end, so tape job for padding is undisturbed
particularly with open face stems ..
the figure 8 bend offers a near and far bar and a side bar end. all out of the same tube-bend.
My brakes and shifting goes on the open , rear center end, so tape job for padding is undisturbed
particularly with open face stems ..
