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Old 01-01-20, 09:32 PM
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Getting the Granny Gear On

I own a 2011 Surly Long Haul Trucker with very short (custom) 150 mm crank arms. I'd like to put a new 22-tooth granny chainring on the bike. I need advice on how to do so. The gear is too small to wiggle it on like I might do with the larger rings as it catches on the crank arms. I'm willing to remove the crank arms but I've run into the following obstacles. To remove the cranks, I have a Park CCP-22 Crank Puller. However, it is long and bangs into the pedals when I try to use it. So, I've tried to remove the pedals using a Park PW-3 Pedal Wrench. However, I haven't removed the pedals in a couple of years and they seem glued in place. Also I'm afraid if I really force the pedals I might strip/deform the pedals so I can only remove them by drilling. Any recommendations on how to remove the pedals and cranks? Is there another way to get the granny gear on?
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Old 01-01-20, 09:50 PM
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There are crank pullers that don't have an integral wrench handle such that you turn them with a large wrench, which you could reposition to avoid hitting the pedal
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Old 01-01-20, 09:56 PM
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Are you turning the pedal wrench the right way?
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With the pedal wrench, you have to be sure that for removal you apply force towards the back of the bike for both pedals. That will be counter-clockwise on the drive side. And clockwise on the non-drive side, if that pedal is also being removed.
Check the park tool site for tips and videos. https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair...?area%5B%5D=61
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Originally Posted by UniChris
There are crank pullers that don't have an integral wrench handle such that you turn them with a large wrench, which you could reposition to avoid hitting the pedal
Can you recommend a model? I've only seen Park in local stores.
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Old 01-02-20, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BROOKLINEBIKER
Can you recommend a model? I've only seen Park in local stores.
Have a look at the Park Tool CWP-7 and see if that'll do for you.

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Com.../dp/B0028YUZSS
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Remove your pedals and use the tool you have. Put some penetrating oil on them and triple check that you are turning them the correct direction. It can take some leverage if they've been neglected. I find that somehow blocking the other crank arm/pedal is easier than trying to hold it by hand.
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Old 01-02-20, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rseeker
Have a look at the Park Tool CWP-7 and see if that'll do for you.

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Com.../dp/B0028YUZSS
That's what I have. It has a couple of modes for different situations in particular two different pushing faces for different spindle types, important to contemplate how it's going to be used and make sure that is correct for the components as if not it can destroy things.

Not in any way meaning to discount the idea of getting the pedals off and using the on-hand tool either, and of course grease them before reinstalling if they are removed so that doesn't happen again.
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Now is the time to remove BOTH pedals and lube the threads to prevent this issue in the future - Like when you have to service the BB
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Old 01-02-20, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rseeker
Have a look at the Park Tool CWP-7 and see if that'll do for you.

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Com.../dp/B0028YUZSS
I'll buy it. Is it usable with a standalone adjustable wrench?
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Originally Posted by BROOKLINEBIKER
I'll buy it. Is it usable with a standalone adjustable wrench?
I think I used a $12 10" adjustable wrench from an auto parts store. Or maybe I used a moderate socket wrench. Vaguely possible I ended up using both but as I think about it more that was probably for the bearing puller part of the project that I needed counter torque.
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If you use your foot to pres on the pedal wrench, you'll be able to to apply more power than just using your arm. The trick is making sure you're trying to move the pedals the right direction. Check the web to find out the right direction, since I've forgotten.
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