1989Pre 

That's great, Scott. I see that you already have a new saddle for it. You might want to just chronicle your upgrade progress in this string, here. Paul

p.s; bold font was good idea.

ScottD961

[QUOTE=1989Pre;20545627]That's great, Scott. I see that you already have a new saddle for it. You might want to just chronicle your upgrade progress in this string, here. Paul

p.s; bold font was good idea.[/QUOTE Yes it is!Much easier on my orbs !

ScottD961

Thanks to all of the Members who have chimed in with useful information on these bikes. Since this thread has already been started, I'll document my progress here. I'm going to keep the Bike it's original color. However the the seat and the Bar Tape will be white. At the Same time I want to try and make it lighter than it is now by using lighter/better components than are on the bike at present. 1989PRE has been helpful with information regarding the upgrades he made to his Technium so I'm going to try and follow his path but with my own spin. ( Pun intended) Lets begin with the Before pics. These are from Craigslist:

ScottD961

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...m-technia.html

This is the parts spek that 1989PRE used and I'm going to try and follow his path somewhat.
Fork: Kinesis Road-D threadless alloy
Crankset: Campagnolo Veloce (53-39)
Chainrings: Stronglight/Miche
Rear derailleur: Suntour Cyclone 6000
Front derailleur: Suntour XCM 3040 (original part)
Shifters: Suntour Accushift (set to friction)
Bottom bracket: Campagnolo Veloce
Rims: Sun Venus 700c, 28H rear, 20H front
Hubs: Royce RH30 high flange rear,
Hope Mono Pro III front
Spokes: DTSwiss single-butted 14g
Skewers: Campagnolo Victory
Stem: ITM The Big One 110mm
Handlebar: Scott LF Liteflite 40cm
Brake Calipers: Campagnolo Veloce
Brake levers: Cane Creek SCR-5C
Brake blocks: Fibrax 310 Sprint
Headset: Cane Creek 110 Classic 1"
Chain: Sachs PG
Freewheel: Sachs 14-28 (6-sp)
Seatpost: Campagnolo Chorus Shorty 26.8
Saddle: Terry Falcon Y
Pedals: Speedplay Frog Ti
Tires: IRC Paperlite Plus (23mm)
Comp: VDO A8

I've already ordered a seat a Selle Italia in White: Here it is

ScottD961

Paul, found these for $20.00, what do you think? Plus shipping of course. The only thing is, the cables on my bike are routed to the left side of the front brake caliper on the bike.In front thats not a big deal. However out back it kind of stinks since the cable is routed threw the frame on the right and it attaches to the caliper on the right.

Aubergine 

dddd

Since all of the modern (dual pivot) calipers have the cable on the left/rear, you could consider mounting the caliper to the front of the seatstays, 180-degrees from "normal".

This is nothing new, a few builders did it that way routinely and claimed some small advantages. It gives a bike a different look, and you'll have a story to go with it whenever someone points it out.

I wonder if Campagnolo ever patented their self-destructing finish as applied to their barrel adjusters? No one else did that so I assume they have a patent on it. I would get creative with a solution to that myself, maybe some off-colored paint to set them off? No QR levers on those calipers, so if you want to use plump tires on standard rims then the QR function will need to be in the levers.

ramzilla

This is mine. I think it's a first year model 440. One of my favorite bikes.

ScottD961

Aubergine, I meant 1989PRE when I said Paul. - He has those Campy brakes on his so I looked around and came up with a set. I have a set of Exage here that are in nice shape as well. They were supposed to be mid to upper/mid level brakes? From what I read they were good, but they're best feature was in the levers (which I don't have). There was a button on the lever that you could Push that would allow you to get the brakes off, like a quick release.

dddd

I would call the Exage levers better than the calipers, tho as a complete brakeset they really aren't bad at all. The reach tends to be short from looking at them. Campy's newer levers all have the QR function built in, but so did many levers in the pretty-old days.

ScottD961

It's funny you said that about doing a 180 with them. I messed around with them last night and came up with the same solution. As for the crappy finish on the barrel adjusters , yeah those are ugly. I'm going to take my Dremel to them with a wire wheel and remove the oxidation. Maybe follow with a clear coat. I'm not going to be using plump tires BTW. I want to use a smooth Black wall Continental tire. Narrow like what is on there now. Sorry for the Blurry pictures. I haven't used the digital Camera in awhile, can you tell?





Here is the old rear brake, flipped 180 like you said

ScottD961

Yeah I did some research on the Exage group last night. I have the calipers but not the levers. I may look for a set of them or go with the Campy's unless I can find brakes and levers together that are better than what is currently on the bike.

Ramzilla, Nice looking bike. I was looking at straight bars last night as well. Just a thought for now

GreenBiker60

Do I have a chance in hell of getting the broken rear dropout re_brazed or welded back on? barely 5/16" in effective "diameter" , obviously not circular but either there was a metallurgical flaw or the cross-sectional area was too small. The bike was barely ridden by the original owner, or I?
I can round up the serial number if needed.....

GreenBiker60

can REPLACEMENT dropouts be found? thanks!

ScottD961

Greenbiker, can you post up a pic? Like you mentioned the rear of the bike is Steel so it most likely could be welded. Finding replacement dropouts? I dunno. These bikes are old, and the component spec of them from the ones I've seen is not that great. What made them great were the frames. Without seeing a pic of the damage it's hard to say for sure. Also if it were able to be welded, would the heat from the welding, weaken the surrounding metal? Possibly. Perhaps someone with more experience with this can chime in?

1989Pre 

My opinion of these, Scott, is that they are worth every penny. As Linda Richmond would say, '...just like butter.' They are so much smoother than any other brake caliper i have used. I'm not sure about how to get your rear cable/housing over to the left, or if it is even advisable/possible. Go over to Bike Mechanics sub-forum and ask. (I'm sure the question has been asked, before...) Exage are indeed above-average calipers with, in my opinion, above-average looks, but you would be doing yourself and your bike a great favor by going with those Veloces.

1989Pre 

Cane Creek (made by Tektro) SCR5 and discontinued SCR5C have that quick-release button, if you are looking for a contemporary option. Buy Tektro brand and save.

1989Pre 

Check out the Frame building and builders sub-forum. Those stays on the Technium are Tange chrome moly and a competent frame-builder should be able to not only braze on a new set of dropouts for you, but give you a selection of dropouts to choose from. This is a common steel frame repair.

ScottD961

Paul, I got them (the Campy brakes) today. They look awesome and yes "just like butter" I may either reverse the rear caliper (180) or just route the cable over to the top of the brake on the left after it comes out of the rear of the top tube. I already mocked it up and it will work either way.
I have an Exage front and rearderailleurand Fr,Rr brakes. I think I'm going to sell them and stick with the components list you sent me. Or as close as I can

1989Pre 

I think you're really going to be glad you got those!
I am not expert, Scott, but i would not recommend "reversing" the caliper. They were not designed for this. Did you ask about this arrangement over at Bike Mechanics sub-forum? I would say just run your rear brake cable/housing over (or through) your seat stays.

Paul

dddd

The calipers are designed to work front or rear, so the reverse mounting is within the design capabilities of the caliper and nothing else changes except for the position of the pads in their slots in the caliper arms, and of course any DIRECTIONAL mounting requirement of the brake pads (open end must face rearward!).

ScottD961

dddd - Open end must face forward, I get you. I'm learning things faster as I hunt for parts. I have installed the caliper both ways and it works fine in either direction. I have so many things to track down for this and I'm also going to strip it and have it repainted too. When the new Fork comes it will have to be painted anyway so might as well do it all from Soup to Nuts!

ScottD961

Campagnolo Veloce Power Torque crankset 170 10 speed 53/39
Work is slowly progressing on the Technium. It will be stripped of all of it's equipment this week and then off to the painters it will go. I bought these for it this week:

ScottD961

Work is slowly progressing on the Technium. It will be stripped of all of it's equipment this week and then off to the painters it will go. I bought these for it this week:



Campagnolo Veloce Power Torque crankset 170 10 speed 53/39

ScottD961

Vintage style CAMPAGNOLO B&W Handlebar End Plugs