The ultimate 27" tire reference thread!
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Specialized Road Sport 27x 1 ¼ fits my 68 year old steel Dunlops beautifully and holds at 90 psi with the wire beads. Tires ride hard at 90 so I'm backing off to 55 front 60 rear.
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"Nicest" Tires?
Are the Folding Panaracer Pasela Folding tires the "Nicest" 27 x 1 1/4 inch tires available? I can be a bit of a tires snob and want to put the original Matrix wheelset back on my '85 Trek 620. By Nicest, I mean light and supple which I would assume are not wire bead.
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You may want to use an adapter to take up the space difference between Schrader and the Presta
https://www.scheels.com/p/bontrager-...yABEgKFX_D_BwE
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https://shop.serfas.com/p/pacer-city-meo-27-1-25b
I have no knowledge of these, other than I saw them on another riders bike and jotted down the name/model.
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27" wired on?
What's current and available in 27 x 1 ¼ and 27 x 1 ⅜? I like what Swift has at the moment, but I want wired on. One bike is a very vintage Brit club bike, and I could only find non-hooked rims to fit the hubs, 40/32. For the other (Trek 720) I have a few pairs of 36 hole but the rims that are built up for it (Campy Nuovo Tipo HF and Nisi Toro wired-on) are also not hooked.
So let's make a list of favorite currently on-the-market wired-ons!
I skimmed the list for one but I didn't look at everything.
So let's make a list of favorite currently on-the-market wired-ons!
I skimmed the list for one but I didn't look at everything.
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I know this is an old thread, but since it is intended as a pinned reference:
The new owner of the Loose Screws NOS parts dealership, following the former owners' retirement, has brought out two new 27" folding tires:
SwiftTire ''Sand Canyon'' 27 x 1 3/8 Folding Touring Tire, Black Sidewall (120 TPI)
SwiftTire ''Sand Canyon'' 27 x 1 3/8 Folding Touring Tire, Tan Sidewall (66 TPI)
More from their blog:
SwiftTire ?Sand Canyon? 27 x 1 3/8 Tire 37-630 Made in Japan by Panaracer | Loose Screws
The new Loose Screws tires are described as 27 x 1 3/8" (which would be 35mm wide), but as typically 33mm wide when mounted on "touring rims".
Both versions appear to have the same tread. I like the Continental Gatorskin or Ultra Sport slicks, but they are wire bead, slick for smooth rolling on pavement, and not available wider than 1 1/4".
The Loose Screws tires look potentially interesting for people looking for a folding touring tire and/or for a slightly wider tire, with enough tread for mixed paved/unpaved riding.
I'd be interested in reports from anyone who tries these.
I have no affiliation with or interest in Loose Screws, but I have several bikes with 27" wheels.
The new owner of the Loose Screws NOS parts dealership, following the former owners' retirement, has brought out two new 27" folding tires:
SwiftTire ''Sand Canyon'' 27 x 1 3/8 Folding Touring Tire, Black Sidewall (120 TPI)
SwiftTire ''Sand Canyon'' 27 x 1 3/8 Folding Touring Tire, Tan Sidewall (66 TPI)
More from their blog:
SwiftTire ?Sand Canyon? 27 x 1 3/8 Tire 37-630 Made in Japan by Panaracer | Loose Screws
The new Loose Screws tires are described as 27 x 1 3/8" (which would be 35mm wide), but as typically 33mm wide when mounted on "touring rims".
Both versions appear to have the same tread. I like the Continental Gatorskin or Ultra Sport slicks, but they are wire bead, slick for smooth rolling on pavement, and not available wider than 1 1/4".
The Loose Screws tires look potentially interesting for people looking for a folding touring tire and/or for a slightly wider tire, with enough tread for mixed paved/unpaved riding.
I'd be interested in reports from anyone who tries these.
I have no affiliation with or interest in Loose Screws, but I have several bikes with 27" wheels.
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What's current and available in 27 x 1 ¼ and 27 x 1 ⅜? I like what Swift has at the moment, but I want wired on. One bike is a very vintage Brit club bike, and I could only find non-hooked rims to fit the hubs, 40/32. For the other (Trek 720) I have a few pairs of 36 hole but the rims that are built up for it (Campy Nuovo Tipo HF and Nisi Toro wired-on) are also not hooked.
So let's make a list of favorite currently on-the-market wired-ons!
I skimmed the list for one but I didn't look at everything.
So let's make a list of favorite currently on-the-market wired-ons!
I skimmed the list for one but I didn't look at everything.
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Hi Ken. I can't say. I gave those tires to my spouse. She doesn't ride that bike often, and she's also not very observant about tires, so it's a big I-don't-know. No complaints, though. To the extent that I didn't like them, it might have been correctable by adjusting pressure. I still think of it as a good tire at its price point.
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Really sorry for 4 posts in a row this what I was looking at. Clicked on view full forum and back to normal.
Good news is can post links and pics now, again sorry to be a pain in the ass. This is the tire I'm interested in. Please let me know if you know something. No big whoop.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roadsport/p/155765
Good news is can post links and pics now, again sorry to be a pain in the ass. This is the tire I'm interested in. Please let me know if you know something. No big whoop.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roadsport/p/155765
I have a set of the RoadSports on my old Rudge. Sorry I didn't see your message sooner, but I have mentioned it earlier in the thread I think last May or so. I've taken them on one ride. I can say, not bad, but in my non-27" world I live on Compass and tubular tires. I'm a bit spoiled, but stil I didn't hate the Road Sports. I have a set of Pasela 32 mm on a touring bike, where I had Paselas and now Challenge Strada Biancas. The Stradas are rather nicer than the Paselas. The RoadSports at full pressure (90 psi) roll freely (my rudge's hubs spin very freely!), and are still pretty good at about 65 psi. When I get newer calipers and brake cables on the bike, I can do some more riding, and I'm looking forward to when I have the bike in better shape and can ride it more.
On the plus side for the RS, the wired beads are a perfect seal to the 68 year old beads on my Rudge wheels and it holds 90 psi pressure for a long time. On the original rims the tires fit the frame perfectly. Most likely the best quality tires I'll find for the bike will be a Pasela. They weigh around 450 grams, where the RS's weigh around 100 grams more.
But I don't have a set of Paselas yet, and my bike-monkeying priorities are to finish fitting a more modern road bike for my run of fitness rides.
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Hi Ken. I can't say. I gave those tires to my spouse. She doesn't ride that bike often, and she's also not very observant about tires, so it's a big I-don't-know. No complaints, though. To the extent that I didn't like them, it might have been correctable by adjusting pressure. I still think of it as a good tire at its price point.
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Thanks a bunch! On a 650b and Mrs. Road Fan's 26" wheeled bike, pressure settings on bouncy donut tires can have a significant effect. I found that too-soft may feel good, but steering response slows tremendously - you can feel the front wheel rubber twisting! Between there and "too darn harsh" is the best the tire can do for you, on your bike, and on your terrain. On my Grand Bois 584 x 42 and Compass 584 x 38 tires I've done some of this exploration. I'm coming to dislike bike innovations that turn going out for a ride into grueling engineering. My tubulars are a simpler world to live in. Pump them up by squeeze, check you have a pump and some spares in the sack, and go.
!That does sound annoying. I guess I'm lucky I haven't experimented that deeply.
My spouse's other bike, the one she rides more, is a Trek 7.3FX, a very nice flat bar bike. She has crappy tires on it, and when we go downhill, I coast ahead of her, and she pedals and still doesn't keep up with me. (I have fancy-ass tires.) I'd like to convince her to get fancy-ass tires, but she'll probably wait until these wear out. @ascherer put Compass tires on his spouse's bike, and she loved them right away.
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@Road Fan, !
That does sound annoying. I guess I'm lucky I haven't experimented that deeply.
My spouse's other bike, the one she rides more, is a Trek 7.3FX, a very nice flat bar bike. She has crappy tires on it, and when we go downhill, I coast ahead of her, and she pedals and still doesn't keep up with me. (I have fancy-ass tires.) I'd like to convince her to get fancy-ass tires, but she'll probably wait until these wear out. @ascherer put Compass tires on his spouse's bike, and she loved them right away.
!That does sound annoying. I guess I'm lucky I haven't experimented that deeply.
My spouse's other bike, the one she rides more, is a Trek 7.3FX, a very nice flat bar bike. She has crappy tires on it, and when we go downhill, I coast ahead of her, and she pedals and still doesn't keep up with me. (I have fancy-ass tires.) I'd like to convince her to get fancy-ass tires, but she'll probably wait until these wear out. @ascherer put Compass tires on his spouse's bike, and she loved them right away.
I’ve had 700x28 Paselas on one bike and recently put 700x35s on it in a different configuration using the folding model. I agree with noglider that they’re a solid tire and a good value, but they don’t perform as well as Compass/Rene Herse.
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I didn’t wait. I was so impressed with mine I figured she deserved a set. However, mine are extra light casings and hers are standard. In the world of 27s I recently outfitted my sons bike with a set of slightly older wire bead 27x1.25 Paselas that felt fine the few times I tested the bike.
I’ve had 700x28 Paselas on one bike and recently put 700x35s on it in a different configuration using the folding model. I agree with noglider that they’re a solid tire and a good value, but they don’t perform as well as Compass/Rene Herse.
I’ve had 700x28 Paselas on one bike and recently put 700x35s on it in a different configuration using the folding model. I agree with noglider that they’re a solid tire and a good value, but they don’t perform as well as Compass/Rene Herse.
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I went fancy-ass on hers, too, with Compass 559 x 1.8” (forgot what mountain pass they were made on!). All was well until she got a glass puncture on her first ride at her favorite park. So I switched them back to her previous Protite 559 x 32 (never flatted), and harmony is restored.
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I'm running Super Champion Modele 58's, which are straight-wall. IRC Special Tyres are rated at 85psi, and that's what I inflate them to. These must have been their base model in maybe the late 70's-early80's. I'm just getting back into using 27", last time being 1985. I've been able to find IRC as N.O.S., but these Special Tyres are really heavy. Their Roadlite gumwalls are lighter and Roadtour somewhere in between.
I'm running Super Champion Modele 58's, which are straight-wall. IRC Special Tyres are rated at 85psi, and that's what I inflate them to. These must have been their base model in maybe the late 70's-early80's. I'm just getting back into using 27", last time being 1985. I've been able to find IRC as N.O.S., but these Special Tyres are really heavy. Their Roadlite gumwalls are lighter and Roadtour somewhere in between.
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For some reason I have gotten all Italian... possibly its ym new girlfriend. However i digress. I have just bought a set of tyres-Challenge strada , they have a small Italian flag motif
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I'm running Super Champion Modele 58's, which are straight-wall. IRC Special Tyres are rated at 85psi, and that's what I inflate them to. These must have been their base model in maybe the late 70's-early80's. I'm just getting back into using 27", last time being 1985. I've been able to find IRC as N.O.S., but these Special Tyres are really heavy. Their Roadlite gumwalls are lighter and Roadtour somewhere in between.
I'm running Super Champion Modele 58's, which are straight-wall. IRC Special Tyres are rated at 85psi, and that's what I inflate them to. These must have been their base model in maybe the late 70's-early80's. I'm just getting back into using 27", last time being 1985. I've been able to find IRC as N.O.S., but these Special Tyres are really heavy. Their Roadlite gumwalls are lighter and Roadtour somewhere in between.
So I am curious as to what your definition of "straight-wall" is(?).
NOS tires will not be a good choice for durability, performance or reliability. They wear fast and tend to come apart.
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I am recalling the Super Champ Mod58 rims having quite-defined bead hooks, capable of retaining folding tires. I know of no exceptions and this was a popular rim for use on tandems (i.e. highest pressures).
So I am curious as to what your definition of "straight-wall" is(?).
NOS tires will not be a good choice for durability, performance or reliability. They wear fast and tend to come apart.
So I am curious as to what your definition of "straight-wall" is(?).
NOS tires will not be a good choice for durability, performance or reliability. They wear fast and tend to come apart.
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