Replacement for Campy UT-CN300?
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Replacement for Campy UT-CN300?
I want to shorten my cp super record 12s chain,my country dealer told me only use ut-cn300 to shorten 12s chain,no others work.
so is there any other replacement for campy ut-cn300?
so is there any other replacement for campy ut-cn300?
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To shorten a Campy chain, it's apparently OK to push out the old joining pin and put in a new one, but a new joining pin is never supposed to be installed on any other pair of outer plates. Those joining pins are pricey. I've always used a quick link, either the no-tools Wipperman, or a KMC. Then you can remove the outer plates with the joining pin and eliminate it.
The joining pin can be identified on the non-drive side of the chain. The end of the pin has a sharp indentation, where the tool peened the end of the pin.
I lot of people never use the Campy joining pin and use a quick link from the start. Then you don't need a special chain tool.
The joining pin can be identified on the non-drive side of the chain. The end of the pin has a sharp indentation, where the tool peened the end of the pin.
I lot of people never use the Campy joining pin and use a quick link from the start. Then you don't need a special chain tool.
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To shorten a Campy chain, it's apparently OK to push out the old joining pin and put in a new one, but a new joining pin is never supposed to be installed on any other pair of outer plates. Those joining pins are pricey. I've always used a quick link, either the no-tools Wipperman, or a KMC. Then you can remove the outer plates with the joining pin and eliminate it.
The joining pin can be identified on the non-drive side of the chain. The end of the pin has a sharp indentation, where the tool peened the end of the pin.
I lot of people never use the Campy joining pin and use a quick link from the start. Then you don't need a special chain tool.
The joining pin can be identified on the non-drive side of the chain. The end of the pin has a sharp indentation, where the tool peened the end of the pin.
I lot of people never use the Campy joining pin and use a quick link from the start. Then you don't need a special chain tool.
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Yes, but any chain tool will do. I ride with a Park CT-6.3 and a spare quick-link in my bag. Good enough to fix the chain on the side of the road and get home. I've only ever had to do it once, and that was with an 8-speed chain, but that makes the difference between getting home under your own power vs calling Uber.
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To shorten a Campy chain, it's apparently OK to push out the old joining pin and put in a new one, but a new joining pin is never supposed to be installed on any other pair of outer plates. Those joining pins are pricey. I've always used a quick link, either the no-tools Wipperman, or a KMC. Then you can remove the outer plates with the joining pin and eliminate it.
The joining pin can be identified on the non-drive side of the chain. The end of the pin has a sharp indentation, where the tool peened the end of the pin.
I lot of people never use the Campy joining pin and use a quick link from the start. Then you don't need a special chain tool.
The joining pin can be identified on the non-drive side of the chain. The end of the pin has a sharp indentation, where the tool peened the end of the pin.
I lot of people never use the Campy joining pin and use a quick link from the start. Then you don't need a special chain tool.
Yes, but any chain tool will do. I ride with a Park CT-6.3 and a spare quick-link in my bag. Good enough to fix the chain on the side of the road and get home. I've only ever had to do it once, and that was with an 8-speed chain, but that makes the difference between getting home under your own power vs calling Uber.
so will they have a solution for me?
the campy dealer told me that super record 12 speed chain won't be used quick link,is that right?
will sr 12s chain has a new joint pin in the package or I need buy a new joint pin ?
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KMC Missing Link 12: for 12 Speed Chain, Silver, Perfectly Connecting KMC, SRAM, Shimano Chains, 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTPYX49..._Gh8lDbCAKQKG2
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KMC Missing Link 12: for 12 Speed Chain, Silver, Perfectly Connecting KMC, SRAM, Shimano Chains, 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTPYX49..._Gh8lDbCAKQKG2
Just about any chain tool can remove the campy joining pin, but use a decent fitting quick link when shortening the chain.
A new chain has a new joining pin, but you must have the campy tool to install it.
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KMC Missing Link 12: for 12 Speed Chain, Silver, Perfectly Connecting KMC, SRAM, Shimano Chains, 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTPYX49..._Gh8lDbCAKQKG2
This link might work, but it may be a little wide - 5.25mm rather than the proper 5.15mm. I have both campy 12 and the new sram axs 12 speed chain. The sram axs link is a bit too tight. It's better for the fit to be slightly loose. The sram eagle 12 might be a better fit. If the kmc chain is 5.25mm wide, it's really not a replacement for a Campy 12 or axs 12 chain.
Just about any chain tool can remove the campy joining pin, but use a decent fitting quick link when shortening the chain.
A new chain has a new joining pin, but you must have the campy tool to install it.
Just about any chain tool can remove the campy joining pin, but use a decent fitting quick link when shortening the chain.
A new chain has a new joining pin, but you must have the campy tool to install it.
too expensive......
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so will local bike shop do it for me ? I ask two lbs,they don't have ut-cn300,they usally install shimano groupsets.
so will they have a solution for me?
the campy dealer told me that super record 12 speed chain won't be used quick link,is that right?
will sr 12s chain has a new joint pin in the package or I need buy a new joint pin ?
so will they have a solution for me?
the campy dealer told me that super record 12 speed chain won't be used quick link,is that right?
will sr 12s chain has a new joint pin in the package or I need buy a new joint pin ?
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but lbs don't have tools..... and they don't know how to handle it.......
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so will local bike shop do it for me ? I ask two lbs,they don't have ut-cn300,they usally install shimano groupsets.
so will they have a solution for me?
the campy dealer told me that super record 12 speed chain won't be used quick link,is that right?
will sr 12s chain has a new joint pin in the package or I need buy a new joint pin ?
so will they have a solution for me?
the campy dealer told me that super record 12 speed chain won't be used quick link,is that right?
will sr 12s chain has a new joint pin in the package or I need buy a new joint pin ?
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This link might work, but it may be a little wide - 5.25mm rather than the proper 5.15mm. I have both campy 12 and the new sram axs 12 speed chain. The sram axs link is a bit too tight. It's better for the fit to be slightly loose. The sram eagle 12 might be a better fit. If the kmc chain is 5.25mm wide, it's really not a replacement for a Campy 12 or axs 12 chain.
Just about any chain tool can remove the campy joining pin, but use a decent fitting quick link when shortening the chain.
A new chain has a new joining pin, but you must have the campy tool to install it.
Just about any chain tool can remove the campy joining pin, but use a decent fitting quick link when shortening the chain.
A new chain has a new joining pin, but you must have the campy tool to install it.
https://KMC 12-Speed ML
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Campy chains are a pain to connect using the recommended pins but its the price of admission. I usually connect the chain with the manufactures recommended system since they would be the ones who know the system the best. The Park tool works well and not crazy expensive. Chains are not something I play around with because if it breaks the results can range from catastrophic to inconvenient neither of which are worth the hassle.
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I think you can use the Rohloff Revolver 3 chain tool as a roughly equal substitute for the Campagnolo UT-CN300, but you're not really saving any money with this option. I'm currently building an endurance bike with a Campagnolo Chorus groupset, so I'm in a similar situation. Do I take the plunge and purchase the UT-CN300 so I can do all my own chain maintenance? Or do I choose to rely on my LBS to provide chain service when I need it?
Honestly, the UT-CN300 is expensive and an "inconvenient" expense. However, the inconvenience of relying on my LBS for chain service will likely outweigh the cost of the tool. I think I'm buying the UT-CN300.
Honestly, the UT-CN300 is expensive and an "inconvenient" expense. However, the inconvenience of relying on my LBS for chain service will likely outweigh the cost of the tool. I think I'm buying the UT-CN300.
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I would say go for an Abbey Decade but that is also not a cheap tool but probably the nicest chain tool I have ever put my hands on and they designed it so it will be a bit future proof with different bottom plates for all the new standards and crap that is coming out.