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Old 05-31-16, 07:07 PM
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Small leather bag for rear triangle?

I'm wondering where I might be able to get something like this for my Raleigh Tourist

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@rootboy to the rescue . . .
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...or @HenryIII; maybe set up an assembly line.
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Thanks JYL...it looks like a very neat project. However, I am sort of out of that mode at the moment. Haven't done any leatherwork in several months and just have too much else going on right now.

That's a nifty bag though.
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You'll need a couple of these:

5 6 oz VEG Tan Cowhide Tooling Leather for Sheaths Holster Moccasin Soles Strops | eBay

...one or two of these...

3 4 5 6mm Leather Craft Pricking Iron Diamond Stitching Chisel Hole Punch Tool D | eBay

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Gun stores have that. All you do is make slits for straps and you are good to go.
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Originally Posted by rootboy
Thanks JYL...it looks like a very neat project. However, I am sort of out of that mode at the moment. Haven't done any leatherwork in several months and just have too much else going on right now.

That's a nifty bag though.
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I really like that bag. I get the idea that this is a hand sewn item, vs using a heavy duty sewing machine? I like the idea of a sun shop holster to start with, but would the gun holster leather be too thick? I'm not familiar with those.

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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Gun stores have that. All you do is make slits for straps and you are good to go.
I legitimately have no idea where I'd find one of those around Boston


EDIT: Oh, maybe a surplus store...

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take a peak around etsy, there are a lot of craftsmen out there that do this kind of thing. Also ebay might give you an idea on what it's called.
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What dimensions? I have a side of 6oz leather and some spare time. And, most importantly, the tools. Don't know about that clasp though, probably have to order one.

Edit: Hey RB you still making awls? Need one.
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
I really like that bag. I get the idea that this is a hand sewn item, vs using a heavy duty sewing machine? I like the idea of a sun shop holster to start with, but would the gun holster leather be too thick? I'm not familiar with those.

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Most holsters, VV, are fitted to the particular piece. That is, wet formed to the pistol or revolver during construction. I don't think I've seen an "open box" holster like this since, well, seeing these that were probably made for Swiss Army bikes, etc.
Leather holster material wouldn't be too thick. You'd need to use thick leather so this would keep its shape and be rigid enough not to sag.
And yes, when making box-like bags like this one, I always used the hand stitching method. Never did figure out how to do 90 degree corners using thick leather, on a sewing machine. It can be done of course but requires the two pieces of leather to meet face to face, skin sides together, rather than at right angles. If that makes sense. It makes for rather bulky, unsightly corners, in my opinion.

A bag like this wouldn't be too difficult to make for those with moderate leather working skills.
As for myself, I don't really do made-to-order items. Tried that a couple of times and it didn't work out that well.
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Old 06-03-16, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cradom
Edit: Hey RB you still making awls? Need one.
I have this one, which I had planned on keeping...probably.
Made of Gabon ebony. But I think you may not like the price.


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That's ok, I found a Barry King for $34. The one I made, the clamp is aluminum, AKA crap. Doesn't hold worth anything. Three or four pokes and the blade pushes back into the handle.
Made it out of a finger drill. Thanks anyway.
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Not leather but out there, English box which mounts in the triangle on the stays or on a brake bridge.

great for tools.
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@rootboy - thanks for taking the time to respond. Good to know. FWIW, I took a pillow making class at a local fabric shop which sells upholstery & curtain weight fabrics. The secret to making 90 degrees on a finish, right-side-out pillow is, when inside-out, you actually don't sew the corners at 90 degrees. You sew them on a curve. If you sew 90 degrees it makes the finished pillow have "dog ears".

Who knew, right?
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Originally Posted by agmetal
I legitimately have no idea where I'd find one of those around Boston


EDIT: Oh, maybe a surplus store...
rt9 on the far side of Framingham has a gun shop.
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
@rootboy - If you sew 90 degrees it makes the finished pillow have "dog ears".

Who knew, right?
No, I didn't know that. But that is not what I was referring to I'm afraid. I have been doing a bit of fabric sewing the last couple of days. as a matter of fact, teaching myself to use this Singer 534 I picked up years ago.

If you can imagine two of the 3 surfaces of that bag above, the side and the end piece, which separates the two sides...come together at right angles with one another. I should have said right angle instead of 90 degrees. You can accomplish this in two ways in sewing thick leather. Put the two pieces back to back and stitch through both, by hand or machine. But with very thick leather, 8 ounce, or 1/8 inch thick, this works, but doesn't look that good, in my view. I bevel each edge that will meet with a 45 degree bevel, on the flesh side, then place the two 45's together, and stitch together. Makes for a more clean and finished look. And a more "box-like" and sturdy construction. FWIW.
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Originally Posted by cradom
That's ok, I found a Barry King for $34. The one I made, the clamp is aluminum, AKA crap. Doesn't hold worth anything. Three or four pokes and the blade pushes back into the handle.
Made it out of a finger drill. Thanks anyway.

Yeah. Barry King awls are pretty nice looking. Especially for the price. Not sure how he can sell them for that. Unless he's having them made overseas or something. I'll be curious to hear if the chucks he uses are better than the aluminum "crap" you mentioned.
I use Starrett pin vises. High quality tool. But they cost me sixteen bucks a piece.

Oh and, that blade pushing back in the handle was a been-there-done-that for me too. First one I made, did that. Even using a Starrett pin vise. They just aren't made for that much force on the pin, or blade. Since then I have installed a tool steel pin inside the barrel of the chuck body, placed to hold the blade at the proper depth.

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Triangle Bag

Ok, this is "Triangle Bag" by Gramm.
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I think a Swiss Army tool bag is a closer description
see https://www.etsy.com/listing/4006996...-army-military
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This is a small game bag I found at a thrift store and repurposed for my medical kit:




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