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09-22-20, 01:05 PM
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Last year of the PY10, in 1988, Reynolds 531 Pro tubing.
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09-22-20, 05:07 PM
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This is my 1973 Follis 172 that I purchased from the original owner and just received today. These are the pics the previous owner posted in CL where I found it. Upon receiving it today I started a strip down of all the easy parts to make a complete clean up possible. The sew ups were toast but fortunately there is enough room for 28cm gum walls !!
With a little rubbing compound, wax, Brasso and a stainless brush this thing started looking better instantly! Should have it back from the LBS in a week or so with said tires, white tape and cables.
With a little rubbing compound, wax, Brasso and a stainless brush this thing started looking better instantly! Should have it back from the LBS in a week or so with said tires, white tape and cables.
09-22-20, 07:44 PM
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Oh snap ! With the 505 in th back
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09-22-20, 07:47 PM
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09-23-20, 11:34 AM
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@Cycle Tourist, your frame looks bent. 
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09-23-20, 11:41 AM
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@Cycle Tourist, your frame looks bent.
09-23-20, 01:01 PM
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I hung my Grand Jubile frame on the wall as decoration, so this bike got its crank, pedals, sweet Motobecane branded headset with black top nut, and tires. I filled in the slots in the spider using a Testors paint pen, which worked great. The Kyokuto Top Run pedals are just a tad wider than the Atom 600 that were on here.
Love these headsets!
Love these headsets!
09-23-20, 09:58 PM
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Here are a couple you may not have seen before . The first is a Phillipe, just the frame in this picture, and the second is the French Mystery bike , shown as received by the bike exchange and complete. Best guess is that it was a local builder in a smaller French town. probably built up originally in the late 60's. finally , aCote d Azure, a entry level bike built by Mercier.
Thanks so much for sharing all of these capnjonny!
Beautiful job you did with the mystery bike.
In the second picture I noticed an auld barrel fabricator lurking in the background. What's the scoop with him? Staving off a spot o' ferrous oxide is he?
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09-24-20, 02:21 AM
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^^^^^ Great job, looks fantastic, nailed it. 
09-24-20, 04:16 AM
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At the beginning of this year, I was looking for a frame that is an early example of Vitus, so targeted the 172. One of the frames I found was from a reknowned St. Etienne builder called Manufrance. I had not heard of this marque, but they had been building bikes since the 1800's.
I bought this frame from a seller in Lyon, and transferred some of the French stuff on my Grubb (Mafac levers, Wolber wheels, Lyotard pedals, Simplex seat-post) and bought some more French components (Nervar triple, Guid handlebars, Pivo Stem) to finish it off. I am in love with how lively the Vitus 172 is:
The frame "talks to me" more than any other that I own, but that stands-to-reason, because it is the best tubing.
I popped some contemporary Polisport fenders on it and am planning on doing some touring with this bicycle.
The only dis-appointment that I had was that my Huret Svelto would not reel in all the chain slack, so I installed a Suntour VX, temporarily, till I can find maybe a Sachs long-cage.
I bought this frame from a seller in Lyon, and transferred some of the French stuff on my Grubb (Mafac levers, Wolber wheels, Lyotard pedals, Simplex seat-post) and bought some more French components (Nervar triple, Guid handlebars, Pivo Stem) to finish it off. I am in love with how lively the Vitus 172 is:
The frame "talks to me" more than any other that I own, but that stands-to-reason, because it is the best tubing.
I popped some contemporary Polisport fenders on it and am planning on doing some touring with this bicycle.
The only dis-appointment that I had was that my Huret Svelto would not reel in all the chain slack, so I installed a Suntour VX, temporarily, till I can find maybe a Sachs long-cage.
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09-24-20, 07:40 AM
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At the beginning of this year, I was looking for a frame that is an early example of Vitus, so targeted the 172. One of the frames I found was from a reknowned St. Etienne builder called Manufrance. I had not heard of this marque, but they had been building bikes since the 1800's.
I bought this frame from a seller in Lyon, and transferred some of the French stuff on my Grubb (Mafac levers, Wolber wheels, Lyotard pedals, Simplex seat-post) and bought some more French components (Nervar triple, Guid handlebars, Pivo Stem) to finish it off. I am in love with how lively the Vitus 172 is:
The frame "talks to me" more than any other that I own, but that stands-to-reason, because it is the best tubing.
I popped some contemporary Polisport fenders on it and am planning on doing some touring with this bicycle.
The only dis-appointment that I had was that my Huret Svelto would not reel in all the chain slack, so I installed a Suntour VX, temporarily, till I can find maybe a Sachs long-cage.
I bought this frame from a seller in Lyon, and transferred some of the French stuff on my Grubb (Mafac levers, Wolber wheels, Lyotard pedals, Simplex seat-post) and bought some more French components (Nervar triple, Guid handlebars, Pivo Stem) to finish it off. I am in love with how lively the Vitus 172 is:
The frame "talks to me" more than any other that I own, but that stands-to-reason, because it is the best tubing.
I popped some contemporary Polisport fenders on it and am planning on doing some touring with this bicycle.
The only dis-appointment that I had was that my Huret Svelto would not reel in all the chain slack, so I installed a Suntour VX, temporarily, till I can find maybe a Sachs long-cage.
Thanks so much for this post & images! Fine job.
Readers with an interest in the tubesets from Ateliers de La Rive might like to see this GEFFAC (export group) page of the 1970's which showed up recently...
Hirondelle is French for swallow (bird).
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09-24-20, 11:09 AM
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Thank you! It sure tested by nerves and wits! Happy with the result though. I did a Peugeot UO-18 almost the exact same way awhile back and I'm surprised how much lighter this Super Mirage feels. I know the Moto is a few steps up in hirearchy, but figured the frames would more or less be the same weight. Nope.
09-24-20, 11:26 AM
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Thanks, Juv.
The "double drawing" process is interesting, as is the fact that they paid such attention to grain flow and purity
of the steel:
Thanks so much for this post & images! Fine job.
Readers with an interest in the tubesets from Ateliers de La Rive might like to see this GEFFAC (export group) page of the 1970's which showed up recently...
Hirondelle is French for swallow (bird).
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The "double drawing" process is interesting, as is the fact that they paid such attention to grain flow and purity
of the steel:
Thanks so much for this post & images! Fine job.
Readers with an interest in the tubesets from Ateliers de La Rive might like to see this GEFFAC (export group) page of the 1970's which showed up recently...
Hirondelle is French for swallow (bird).
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09-24-20, 11:37 AM
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To Polymorphself:
Not only does it look great, but with that Stronglight 93, it should be fast!
Not only does it look great, but with that Stronglight 93, it should be fast!
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09-24-20, 06:28 PM
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Juvela,
Re the Frame in the background of the French Mystery bike, A while ago someone had the Bob Jackson Frame for sale for $50. an of course I bought it. When I got it home I discovered the seat post was frozen . I banged and twisted, heated and cooled, and poured Kroil and then vinegar in the frame for a week to try and brake it free. Finally in frustration I cut the end of the seat post and tried drilling it out from the inside. My largest bit still left about 1/8 inch of material so I got out the Sawzall and tried to section it . I cut it in 2 places and tried to chisel out the pieces and it still wouldn't budge. Finally I managed to cut completely through the post and also the seat tube. The seat post is still there and now I hang the frame in a place of honor in front of my garage door. I could have tried using oven cleaner to dissolve the aluminum but was afraid I might permanently disfigure myself trying.
Re the Frame in the background of the French Mystery bike, A while ago someone had the Bob Jackson Frame for sale for $50. an of course I bought it. When I got it home I discovered the seat post was frozen . I banged and twisted, heated and cooled, and poured Kroil and then vinegar in the frame for a week to try and brake it free. Finally in frustration I cut the end of the seat post and tried drilling it out from the inside. My largest bit still left about 1/8 inch of material so I got out the Sawzall and tried to section it . I cut it in 2 places and tried to chisel out the pieces and it still wouldn't budge. Finally I managed to cut completely through the post and also the seat tube. The seat post is still there and now I hang the frame in a place of honor in front of my garage door. I could have tried using oven cleaner to dissolve the aluminum but was afraid I might permanently disfigure myself trying.
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09-25-20, 07:36 AM
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Thanks very much for the thorough response capnjonny!
The frame's mitred-in seat stay sent me down the wrong path.
Should have recognized that head transfer. Shop near me a long time Jack Bobson stockist so saw many of them.
Has the co-op yet sold the mystery bike?
Thinking that if you had posted the frame MauriceMoss may have been able to identify it. The dropouts and fork crown send contradictory messages timewise. Would think that the crown would not have launched until some years after the dropouts had been discontinued. It is one of the NERVEX Professional patterns. Advert of October 1977 -
Thanks again for sharing these bikes and all of your good work; that is one lucky co-op to have you!
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Thanks very much for the thorough response capnjonny!
The frame's mitred-in seat stay sent me down the wrong path.
Should have recognized that head transfer. Shop near me a long time Jack Bobson stockist so saw many of them.
Has the co-op yet sold the mystery bike?
Thinking that if you had posted the frame MauriceMoss may have been able to identify it. The dropouts and fork crown send contradictory messages timewise. Would think that the crown would not have launched until some years after the dropouts had been discontinued. It is one of the NERVEX Professional patterns. Advert of October 1977 -
Thanks again for sharing these bikes and all of your good work; that is one lucky co-op to have you!
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09-25-20, 09:25 AM
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Motobecane spécial course sur mesure 1978
A Motobecane Spécial Course sur mesure 1978 is a recent restoration project that has become my primary bicycle.
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1989Pre -
wrt the rear mech for the Swallow -
since you have a model 700 Luxe front mech and the appropriate companion shift levers it seems like it would be a shame to fit a mech from Sachs for the stern
there are several models of contemporaneous mechs from Freres Huret with the capacity for your drive train
a) there is a long arm touring version of the Svelto
b) there is a long arm touring version of the Allvit
c) there is the Luxe series of three models
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as you are probably already aware the manufacturer offered natural rubber covers for these shift levers. they are part number 1851:
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were you able to determine a date for the Peyrard chainset you employed?
all best with the machine, beautiful job!
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1989Pre -
wrt the rear mech for the Swallow -
since you have a model 700 Luxe front mech and the appropriate companion shift levers it seems like it would be a shame to fit a mech from Sachs for the stern
there are several models of contemporaneous mechs from Freres Huret with the capacity for your drive train
a) there is a long arm touring version of the Svelto
b) there is a long arm touring version of the Allvit
c) there is the Luxe series of three models
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as you are probably already aware the manufacturer offered natural rubber covers for these shift levers. they are part number 1851:
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were you able to determine a date for the Peyrard chainset you employed?
all best with the machine, beautiful job!
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Thanks so much, Juvela! I appreciate the help. Yes, I agree that Huret would be a better match, and I am thinking seriously about purchasing a Super Touring rear derailleur. The rubber shifter hoods look nice. Also, I am enjoying the extra length of my long shifters. The Nervar crank is early 80's, I think, but could be off a few years either way. I think I'll get some toe clips next.
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