Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Son has been bitten by Di2

Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Son has been bitten by Di2

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-09-19, 04:09 PM
  #1  
TiHabanero
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,461
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1744 Post(s)
Liked 1,370 Times in 719 Posts
Son has been bitten by Di2

On a business trip during down time my boy rented a Cannondale Synapse with Di2. Says he can't go back to wired shifting. Also commented that the Synapse rides like a Caddy. He races a Caad10 and is not familiar with the endurance geometry ride quality.
TiHabanero is offline  
Old 04-09-19, 04:49 PM
  #2  
Ghazmh
Senior Member
 
Ghazmh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: The banks of the River Charles
Posts: 2,029

Bikes: 2022 Salsa Beargrease, 2020 Seven Evergreen, 2019 Honey Allroads Ti, 2018 Seven Redsky XX, 2017 Trek Boon 7, 2014 Trek 520

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 696 Post(s)
Liked 910 Times in 487 Posts
That’s cool. Di2 is nice but it is wired......
Ghazmh is offline  
Old 04-09-19, 06:45 PM
  #3  
Bmach
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 440 Post(s)
Liked 264 Times in 162 Posts
He could race a synaspse.
Bmach is offline  
Old 04-09-19, 07:47 PM
  #4  
jimincalif
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Meridian, ID
Posts: 2,333

Bikes: '96 Trek 850, '08 Specialized Roubaix Comp, '18 Niner RLT RDO

Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Liked 123 Times in 83 Posts
Get some Neosporin on that bite before it gets infected!
jimincalif is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 01:52 PM
  #5  
Slightspeed
Senior Member
 
Slightspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,249

Bikes: 1964 Legnano Roma Olympiade, 1973 Raleigh Super Course, 1978 Raleigh Super Course, 1978 Peugeot PR10, 2002 Specialized Allez, 2007 Specialized Roubaix, 2013 Culprit Croz Blade

Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 741 Post(s)
Liked 818 Times in 421 Posts
I love my Suntour and Campy bar end shifters, I don't love my Simplex and Campy down tube shifters, I like my 105 STI brifters, but I REALLY love my Ultegra Di2! 👍👍👍
Slightspeed is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 02:27 PM
  #6  
Rajflyboy
Banned.
 
Rajflyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Carolinas
Posts: 1,293

Bikes: Orbea

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 917 Post(s)
Liked 205 Times in 170 Posts
Fill the dump truck with cash and head to a local bike shop. Then dump the cash out and go back to the bank and load up the dump truck with cash and head back to the bike shop.

Its gonna be an expensive ride.
Rajflyboy is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 03:51 PM
  #7  
TimothyH
- Soli Deo Gloria -
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779

Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix

Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times in 469 Posts
Originally Posted by Rajflyboy
Fill the dump truck with cash and head to a local bike shop. Then dump the cash out and go back to the bank and load up the dump truck with cash and head back to the bike shop.

Its gonna be an expensive ride.
Electronic is $600 to $700 above the cost of mechanical if you source the parts and build it yourself.

Someone on these forums got a Di2 version of his bike for $250 more than the mechanical version.

It isn't as expensive as people think.


-Tim-

Last edited by TimothyH; 04-17-19 at 03:58 PM.
TimothyH is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 03:57 PM
  #8  
superpletch
faster downhill
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 260

Bikes: more than my wife can keep track of

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
sram forced groupset(i think Caad10 equipped) retail $850 range - shimano ultegra Di2 groupset retail $1300 range

so for a difference of $450 you can have di2 ultegra groupset. I don't think you'll need two dumptrucks (so dramatic) to pay for that.

I love my di2 bike and it is consistently the same every time I ride it. also I love my 105 equipped bike and for that matter I love all my bikes.

ride what you like, just get out and ride
superpletch is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 04:10 PM
  #9  
Wildwood 
Veteran, Pacifist
 
Wildwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 13,328

Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?

Mentioned: 284 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3898 Post(s)
Liked 4,831 Times in 2,229 Posts
is the bite contagious?

I've been holding back for an unwired solution to surface, mature and trickle down to Force, Athena, 105.
Until then, I got enough variety.
But the attraction is strong in the marketplace.
Easy to understand.
__________________
Vintage, modern, e-road. It is a big cycling universe.
Wildwood is online now  
Old 04-17-19, 04:56 PM
  #10  
Sy Reene
Advocatus Diaboli
 
Sy Reene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 8,635

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4733 Post(s)
Liked 1,532 Times in 1,003 Posts
Originally Posted by TimothyH
Electronic is $600 to $700 above the cost of mechanical if you source the parts and build it yourself.

-Tim-
You forgot the qualifier... "for the same groupset". Tiagra mech is nowhere near only $600 less than Ultegra Di2 (which is still the lowest level available I think).
Sy Reene is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 05:56 PM
  #11  
TimothyH
- Soli Deo Gloria -
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779

Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix

Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times in 469 Posts
Originally Posted by Sy Reene
You forgot the qualifier... "for the same groupset". Tiagra mech is nowhere near only $600 less than Ultegra Di2 (which is still the lowest level available I think).
We've been through this before Sy.

Yes, for the same groupset. Apples to apples.

You gotta be in the Ultegra league to play.


-Tim-

Last edited by TimothyH; 04-17-19 at 06:19 PM.
TimothyH is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 06:17 PM
  #12  
TiHabanero
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,461
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1744 Post(s)
Liked 1,370 Times in 719 Posts
I told him to wait for wireless to come out. Nuts to the wires when a wireless option will be here soon.

When Campagnolo goes wireless, I will finally make the jump to "indexed" shifting.
TiHabanero is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 06:17 AM
  #13  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,872
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6958 Post(s)
Liked 10,960 Times in 4,686 Posts
Originally Posted by Rajflyboy
Fill the dump truck with cash and head to a local bike shop. Then dump the cash out and go back to the bank and load up the dump truck with cash and head back to the bike shop.

Its gonna be an expensive ride.
To state it mildly, that's a bit of an exaggeration.
Koyote is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 08:09 AM
  #14  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,232
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18409 Post(s)
Liked 15,528 Times in 7,325 Posts
I'll join the troll: Some of us have truckloads of cash to spare.

On a serious note...When I had my custom frame built four years ago I didn't go with Di2 because of the added cost. The frame was expensive enough, and I wanted to strike a balance so I went with DA 9000. When wireless comes out I may switch over.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 08:17 AM
  #15  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,872
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6958 Post(s)
Liked 10,960 Times in 4,686 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
I'll join the troll: Some of us have truckloads of cash to spare.

On a serious note...When I had my custom frame built four years ago I didn't go with Di2 because of the added cost. The frame was expensive enough, and I wanted to strike a balance so I went with DA 9000. When wireless comes out I may switch over.
I've got a new custom frame on the way...Had it ported for Di2, and it will have no provisions for shifter cables.

The Di2 porting and extra cost of the Di2 components comes to about $1200 (vs a frame built for mechanical shifting and appropriate groupset); that's about two days' earnings in my household, which I would hardly call a "truckload" of cash. (Not talking to you, indy, but to Rajflyboy. I would've made a different decision four years ago.)
Koyote is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 09:37 AM
  #16  
BirdsBikeBinocs
Senior Member
 
BirdsBikeBinocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Mars Hotel
Posts: 472

Bikes: Giant Talon 29 - Specialized Diverge E5 Comp

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 283 Post(s)
Liked 45 Times in 33 Posts
Originally Posted by superpletch
sram forced groupset(i think Caad10 equipped) retail $850 range - shimano ultegra Di2 groupset retail $1300 range

so for a difference of $450 you can have di2 ultegra groupset. I don't think you'll need two dumptrucks (so dramatic) to pay for that.

I love my di2 bike and it is consistently the same every time I ride it. also I love my 105 equipped bike and for that matter I love all my bikes.
ride what you like, just get out and ride
"Consistently the same"..... Why wouldn't it be.?? What do you mean when you say that.??
BirdsBikeBinocs is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 09:59 AM
  #17  
79pmooney
Senior Member
 
79pmooney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 12,902

Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder

Mentioned: 129 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4802 Post(s)
Liked 3,923 Times in 2,552 Posts
Son has been bitten by Di2

Is there a vaccine? Can it be administered after infection?
79pmooney is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 03:02 PM
  #18  
superpletch
faster downhill
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 260

Bikes: more than my wife can keep track of

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by BirdsBikeBinocs
"Consistently the same"..... Why wouldn't it be.?? What do you mean when you say that.??
after several thousand miles it still shifts exactly the same as when I first rode it, even after replacing chain and cassette. In my experience my mechanical shifters and brakes (my di2 has hydraulic disc) will need adjusting from time to time and cables replaced periodically due to stretch and wear.
superpletch is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 03:42 PM
  #19  
CliffordK
Senior Member
 
CliffordK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 27,547
Mentioned: 217 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18372 Post(s)
Liked 4,507 Times in 3,350 Posts
Originally Posted by 79pmooney
son has been bitten by di2

is there a vaccine? Can it be administered after infection?
eps
CliffordK is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 04:55 PM
  #20  
socaltrailrider
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: So Cal
Posts: 20

Bikes: Trek Domane SL7, Niner RLT9 RDO, Ibis Rimpo & Ripley

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts
I picked up a Di2 Domane in 2016 when it was heavily discounted on a close-out. Kind of sorry that I did because before that I was perfectly happy with my standard Ultegra groupset. Fast forward to 2019 and I wanted to get a disc equipped roadie. I only looked at Di2 equipped bikes because I just couldn't see myself going back to a cable actuated drivetrain if i didn't have to. Unfortunately I had to suck it up and pay the premium.
socaltrailrider is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 09:57 PM
  #21  
pickettt
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 411

Bikes: DiamondBack Podium 7, Focus Raven 1.0, Ritchey BreakAway Cross, (2) Trek 8500, Paramount PDG 90, Trek T2000, Redline Flight Pro 24

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 160 Post(s)
Liked 57 Times in 33 Posts
Originally Posted by CliffordK
eps
pickettt is offline  
Old 04-19-19, 08:32 AM
  #22  
Feldman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,177
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 117 Post(s)
Liked 71 Times in 51 Posts
I work on every kind of bike on the road for my job--having worked on both di2 and all of the current Shimano mechanical groups I don't see the appeal in electronic. If Shimano really wants the electronic stuff to conquer the world they shouldn't have made the 7000/8000/9000 groups shift so well!
Feldman is offline  
Old 04-19-19, 01:04 PM
  #23  
Rajflyboy
Banned.
 
Rajflyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Carolinas
Posts: 1,293

Bikes: Orbea

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 917 Post(s)
Liked 205 Times in 170 Posts
I don’t care if you make 5 million a year. 1300 for bicycle shifting in a bike build is outrageous and unnecessary. A lot of nice road and gravel complete bicycles out there for less than 1300. DI2 isn’t going to make the average rider faster on the bike.

Maybe in a a few years that DI2 stuff will become cheap enough for a reasonable purchase.
Rajflyboy is offline  
Old 04-19-19, 01:07 PM
  #24  
Marcus_Ti
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
 
Marcus_Ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,331

Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2349 Post(s)
Liked 406 Times in 254 Posts
Originally Posted by Rajflyboy
I don’t care if you make 5 million a year. 1300 for bicycle shifting in a bike build is outrageous and unnecessary. A lot of nice road and gravel complete bicycles out there for less than 1300. DI2 isn’t going to make the average rider faster on the bike.

Maybe in a a few years that DI2 stuff will become cheap enough for a reasonable purchase.
Only internet brands....these days $1,300 barely even buys you an entry-level bike with the very latest (LOL) in 8-speed shifting tech.
Marcus_Ti is offline  
Old 04-19-19, 01:09 PM
  #25  
Rajflyboy
Banned.
 
Rajflyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Carolinas
Posts: 1,293

Bikes: Orbea

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 917 Post(s)
Liked 205 Times in 170 Posts
Fuji has some nice stuff n the 1300$ range with SRAM mechanical shifting.
Rajflyboy is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.