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Old 06-08-08, 11:15 AM
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Where is the best place to lighten this bike

How you get those sub 15 lb bikes, Ill never know... but what is the best/most effective upgrades to lighten my new ride?

https://fujibikes.com/2008/bikes.asp?id=394

I started with the wheels (ksyrium SL), where next?

and do carbon seatposts really make that big of a difference?
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check this site:
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/
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15LB is currently at the low extreme... It's my believe anything extreme and yer gonna have to compromise on other aspects... goodbye wallet.
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Originally Posted by milnerpt
How....?
Do you know what the frame and fork weigh? If they're heavy, that's a bad starting point, because a light bike is mostly due to a light frame-set and wheels, with the rest being less significant
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An Easton EC90 SL or SLx fork would be in order.
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Did anyone read the topic and think, ``Start with the rider'' before reading the text of the message?
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Originally Posted by rizz
Did anyone read the topic and think, ``Start with the rider'' before reading the text of the message?
I am right there with you. My first thought was rider.
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Originally Posted by rizz
Did anyone read the topic and think, ``Start with the rider'' before reading the text of the message?
Yeah, but that's too much work... bike, just throw $$$ at it.
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full carbon fork... bit if you take a poop its probably the same weight
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Originally Posted by rizz
Did anyone read the topic and think, ``Start with the rider'' before reading the text of the message?
That wasn't his question, and why do so many people assume everyone on here needs to lose weight? He could be 120 pounds! How dare anyone want to cut some weight off their bike
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Full carbon fork never crossed my mind. thanks guys!

I already know how to drop my own weight, I wanted to know how to drop the bike's weight. Aside from urinating/defecating while riding to continually lose weight, do you recommend I avoid carrying waterbottles, or will the urinating offset this? FYI I already shaved my head to cut back a quarter pound.

6'3" 180
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Get teeth extracted at the dentist (make sure to specify carbon fiber replacements). You know what? I hear that they provide prosthetic limbs made out of carbon fiber you can use. In all honesty, the rider + bike weight needs to be well under 60lbs to have ANY chance of enjoying yourself whilst biking.
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Inflate your tires with a lighter-than-air gas like Helium. You will save a ton of total weight and think of the rolling resistance benefits.
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Lose the feet. Get cleats that screw directly to your leg bones. You'll save some weight, and notice a lot better acceleration at the same time.
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you definatly need water if you want to bike........ a full carbon fork will drop it quite a bit... the alloy on my felt was mad heavy.... why do you want to go through all the extremes to drop the cycling weight... just get your power to weight ratio up by doing squats at the gym
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Originally Posted by Wested
I hear that they provide prosthetic limbs made out of carbon fiber you can use.
Originally Posted by Chuckie
Lose the feet. Get cleats that screw directly to your leg bones. You'll save some weight, and notice a lot better acceleration at the same time.
Aren't those "body mods" illegal under UCI rules?
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These are the best carbon components to increase speed and climbing ability.
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nothing wrong with wanting a light bike. IMO, you can shave a lot by going to lighter wheels. Expect to pay though, going to 16-17 is easy, getting to 15, will cost much more. Anyway, a nice pair of brakes can also probably shave a bit.
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bottom bracket... pedals... stem... seatpost... skewers... handlebar... tape...
oh yeah, and remove the reflectors
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Originally Posted by milnerpt
Full carbon fork never crossed my mind. thanks guys!

I already know how to drop my own weight, I wanted to know how to drop the bike's weight. Aside from urinating/defecating while riding to continually lose weight, do you recommend I avoid carrying waterbottles, or will the urinating offset this? FYI I already shaved my head to cut back a quarter pound.

6'3" 180
Yeah, stop carrying bottles when you ride. Hydration means nothing.

Man, just ride your bike...

If you want a weight weenie build, you started wrong. Sorry.
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Unfortunately it's a lot harder to start with a full bike and go down in weight, than to start with frame and then build to a weight limit. You have to basically look at every single part that you hang on the thing, which on your bike basically means replacing virtually everything. OEM bikes are hung with heavy cheap parts in most cases. Not worth it. I think a better goal might be to shoot for high 16s to mid 17s.

I started with a 3.3lb frame (not light at all) and built up from there. I ended up hanging a few heavier than I wanted parts on it that I already had to save money and ended up at 16. I'll replace them if I can get deals on them, but for now I'm satisfied at 16. Helluva lot lighter than the old 21lb bike.
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The seat post and saddle weighs a lot, you can swap to lighter ones. Wheels are probably the next big weight next to the frame and fork.
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Originally Posted by jsmithepa
15LB is currently at the low extreme... It's my believe anything extreme and yer gonna have to compromise on other aspects... goodbye wallet.
Incorrect. My bike is 14 pounds and has nothing particularly weight-weenie about it, except for zero-gravity brakes and nokon cables. Expensive though, yes.
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Originally Posted by s4one
The seat post and saddle weighs a lot, you can swap to lighter ones. Wheels are probably the next big weight next to the frame and fork.
did you guys even read his post?
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