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Old 08-14-20, 01:19 PM
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Also, pro-tip, if you shut off your radar to save battery while on a long stop, then turn it back on, the Garmin won’t find it without a power cycle as well. At lease, my 520 wouldn’t. Can confirm, you suddenly feel naked without it.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I haven't ridden in memory, but after tomorrow I have no crew. My wife left yesterday, for a month. No one to blame but myself, shortly.
But.
The dogs get really needy when one of us leaves. That's why I'm thinking about the rollers.

where did the wife go?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I hope you’re right. However, with the societal resistance to vaccines and many reputable sources saying that this is proving to be a difficult one, I’m not optimistic.
There's going to be a lot of initial resistance, but it will decrease, especially among vulnerable populations, which is where we really want the protection. Even I might wait a month or two for some post-market surveillance if the complication rate seems high or there are rumors that the Phase III trials were rushed. I also hope there isn't too much political pressure on the FDA to approve something before the election.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
As did I. first day off since July 30th and that's only because it flooded that day.
My last vacation day was July 1st. First two day stretch off all year. Planning to take at least a week off starting the Friday after Labor Day.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I hope you’re right. However, with the societal resistance to vaccines and many reputable sources saying that this is proving to be a difficult one, I’m not optimistic. My previous comment doesn’t help, because it’s been shown from the start of this that the reality turns out worse than the worst forecast. And you weren’t around in the years ago when I was worse, but I have a hard time with optimism. Shall we say.
Every silver lining has a cloud, huh?

Mostly, I've been listening to the less optimistic projections, and we're doing better than those. The thing the worst projections didn't include is the population freaking out when people start getting sick and actually behaving responsibly. You see this in how the hot spot states all have arced over and are on the decrease in new cases right now - people started behaving responsibly.

But, yeah, the whole thing about herd immunity is that you need enough people who aren't susceptible to prevent the spread, because those who can't take the vaccine or are unable to mount a protective response depend on the rest of us to keep them safe. This is why I'm totally unsympathetic to anti-vaxxers, and have no problem making it mandatory.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
There's going to be a lot of initial resistance, but it will decrease, especially among vulnerable populations, which is where we really want the protection. Even I might wait a month or two for some post-market surveillance if the complication rate seems high or there are rumors that the Phase III trials were rushed. I also hope there isn't too much political pressure on the FDA to approve something before the election.
My assumption is that even if I wanted the first round of vaccines that all the early batches will go to essential workers and vulnerable populations, so there'll be some time to see what happens anyway. And call me selfish, but while I certainly want the vulnerable populations protected, the stories of what happens to some young people plus the utter lack of long-term knowledge (post-Polio, anyone?), I don't want to take a risk for myself either.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Every silver lining has a cloud, huh?

Mostly, I've been listening to the less optimistic projections, and we're doing better than those. The thing the worst projections didn't include is the population freaking out when people start getting sick and actually behaving responsibly. You see this in how the hot spot states all have arced over and are on the decrease in new cases right now - people started behaving responsibly.

But, yeah, the whole thing about herd immunity is that you need enough people who aren't susceptible to prevent the spread, because those who can't take the vaccine or are unable to mount a protective response depend on the rest of us to keep them safe. This is why I'm totally unsympathetic to anti-vaxxers, and have no problem making it mandatory.
Every silver lining is carcinogenic rays bouncing off a hurricane.

With you on that last bit. Nothing drives me more batty than this craziness that "unbiased journalism" means uncritical presentation of science and anti-vax together as two equally-valid competing viewpoints.
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Radar? wut
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My last vacation day was July 1st. First two day stretch off all year. Planning to take at least a week off starting the Friday after Labor Day.
Oh, we’re talking about days off of work? I thought we were talking about riding days.

My last day off at work was... too far back to remember. I retired from full-time work in 2005 at 54.
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Old 08-14-20, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Radar? wut
My dad’s comment was “When I was a lad only planes, ships, and the Batmobile had radar. Now my son’s bicycle has it.”
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Yeah and I still want more and better radar, not less.
Oh. And again, I was thinking weather radar. Obv.
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Originally Posted by big john
So they pulled it with a rope tied to the truck? Lot of tricks to tree work. Last house I lived in a huge section of a pine tree fell on the house and poked holes in the roof. I cut it up as much as I could with a bow saw and the landlord got a service to come out weeks later. There was a piece which they estimated @500 pounds still on the roof and they trussed it up with ropes and lowered it to the ground without any pulleys, just tied to the tree and hoisted it up and swung it over and down.

I also watched one of them scramble up a tree with a small chainsaw hanging from his belt on a rope. I could never climb like he did.

Yes. The truck was key, as well as knowing how much rope, where to cut the tree, and so many other things. It was cool. And loud!
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
where did the wife go?
To Ohio. To welcome the coming grandchild
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
There's going to be a lot of initial resistance, but it will decrease, especially among vulnerable populations, which is where we really want the protection. Even I might wait a month or two for some post-market surveillance if the complication rate seems high or there are rumors that the Phase III trials were rushed. I also hope there isn't too much political pressure on the FDA to approve something before the election.
You're joking, certainly
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Radar? wut
No, its radar Love. Enjoy. Warning: it's pre 1977. You might enjoy the horns.


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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
My dad’s comment was “When I was a lad only planes, ships, and the Batmobile had radar. Now my son’s bicycle has it.”
I like the way your dad thinks. Except he forgot M*A*S*H
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Every silver lining has a cloud, huh?

Mostly, I've been listening to the less optimistic projections, and we're doing better than those. The thing the worst projections didn't include is the population freaking out when people start getting sick and actually behaving responsibly. You see this in how the hot spot states all have arced over and are on the decrease in new cases right now - people started behaving responsibly.

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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I like the way your dad thinks. Except he forgot M*A*S*H
He doesn't even have a cell phone. Not "he doesn't have a smartphone"; he has no cell phone of any sort.
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No, its radar Love. Enjoy. Warning: it's pre 1977. You might enjoy the horns.
Nope.
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He doesn't even have a cell phone. Not "he doesn't have a smartphone"; he has no cell phone of any sort.
there was a day when cell phones did not exist, we managed. I don't have a 4k TV, power meter or a crabon bike. That doesn't stop me from being awesome.
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He doesn't even have a cell phone. Not "he doesn't have a smartphone"; he has no cell phone of any sort.
My kind of guy.
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there was a day when cell phones did not exist, we managed. I don't have a 4k TV, power meter or a crabon bike. That doesn't stop me from being awesome.
Must be the music, then.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
My dad’s comment was “When I was a lad only planes, ships, and the Batmobile had radar. Now my son’s bicycle has it.”
Ships now have AIS. Much better for traffic. Aircraft have something analogous, but I don't know how good it is. Not useful on a bicycle, yet.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
To Ohio. To welcome the coming grandchild

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My ears are my radar.
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