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Old 08-10-20, 05:11 AM
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wat happens if i hit this

here where i live, there is alot of MUPs. Problem is there is lots of intentional obsticles. this one is actually one of the easier one.

i had few close calls with the ones that make the lane very narrow.

i wonder what will happen to me if my pedal strike the metal bollard while going say 12 mph?

will it snag my pedal and throw me off my bike? or will it just be a glancing blow and i keep upright and can keep pedaling?



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Old 08-10-20, 06:27 AM
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I once saw someone hit a bollard. Their fork folded, cheap bike.
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Old 08-10-20, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
here where i live, there is alot of MUPs. Problem is there is lots of intentional obsticles. this one is actually one of the wide ones.

i had few close calls with the narrower ones.

i wonder what will happen to me if my pedal strike the metal bollard while going say 12 mph?

will it snag my pedal and throw me off my bike? or will it just be a glancing blow and i keep upright and can keep pedaling?


This does look like poor, risky design. That being the case, I'd slow down to negotiate them safely.
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Old 08-10-20, 06:45 AM
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It's easy to negotiate these if you slow down and pay attention. These obstructions are intended to keep other larger vehicles off the path making it safer for you.

These ones look a bit narrow though. I doubt that I could fit my trike through them.
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Old 08-10-20, 07:01 AM
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I'm 58. When I was 14 I was riding no-handed through a park with a major tailwind, going at least 20 mph when my left pedal clipped a parking riser that I was certain I was well clear of. I woke up a few yards down the path, bruised, cut, scraped and bloody. Forty-four years later I still think about that every time I see a bollard or narrow pass-through. In fact I immediately thought of it when I saw your photo, before I even read any words.

The left crank was torqued out about 10 degrees. Still have a scar under my right arm-pit.

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Old 08-10-20, 07:05 AM
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There was a TDF a few years back where a fan reached out and grabbed someone's handlebar right as the sprint to the finish was ongoing. I would imagine it's going to look a lot like that.
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Old 08-10-20, 08:19 AM
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I wouldn't hit that at any speed.

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Old 08-10-20, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost View Post
It's easy to negotiate these if you slow down and pay attention.em.
there is one that is challenging. because its at bottom of a small hill. if you slow down, you lose momentum that can carry you up the hill.

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Old 08-10-20, 08:58 AM
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Yes, I do hate to lose momentum; however a spill would be worse. I hope they give this area a bit more thought when they get around to renovating it.

Stay safe, mate.
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Old 08-10-20, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
here where i live, there is alot of MUPs. Problem is there is lots of intentional obsticles. this one is actually one of the easier one.

i had few close calls with the ones that make the lane very narrow.

i wonder what will happen to me if my pedal strike the metal bollard while going say 12 mph?

will it snag my pedal and throw me off my bike? or will it just be a glancing blow and i keep upright and can keep pedaling?


Bollard on right, 2 poles on left, curb right before the mess, and a strange manhole situation right after, what could go wrong?

I'm taking this really slow.
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Old 08-10-20, 09:16 AM
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Unless you're using particularly wide platform pedals, it's likely your foot will catch one of the uprights and hopefully glance off. But if you're sufficiently close for your foot to catch something, it's likely that your handlebar will get there first, in which case, you're probably going down. But it looks like the path is crossing a road - so why would you not be slowing down?
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Old 08-10-20, 10:54 AM
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a year or two ago a tour rider clipped a pedal on something and landed face first against something and died.
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Old 08-10-20, 11:15 AM
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I would love to see some pics of the worse barriers.

You don't want to clip anything with your pedals, it's scary. The only thing worse (other than a head-on) would be to clip your handlebar.

I was once doing a fast left-hand turn (in heavy traffic) and as I came out of the 90 deg. turn at a fairly good speed, I clipped the curb with my right pedal. I don't know how I kept the rubber side down -- it was really scary.

P.S. I was riding with clipless pedals.
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Old 08-10-20, 11:28 AM
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Depending on the height, you might be more likely to hit with your bars, which might result in a broken hand, and would likely take you down. Either, be careful.
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Old 08-10-20, 12:55 PM
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The bollards here are designed to stop/slow down bike traffic to keep them from bombing across the streets without stopping. They are a real pain to get through on my recumbent bike, but I can zig right through them (still have to really slow down) in my velo. There's not much hazard, at least, unless you're really not paying attention.


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Old 08-10-20, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
i wonder what will happen to me if my pedal strike the metal bollard while going say 12 mph?
It looks like this is in Japan. I suspect the locals are used to dealing with it.

Much of the infrastructure in other countries is suited for slow riding.
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Old 08-10-20, 05:55 PM
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definitely slow down and avoid that metal plate on the right side if it's wet
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Old 08-12-20, 07:47 AM
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The looong duration road construction on my daily path has "temporary" plastic / rubber speed bumps bolted to the roadway to decrease traffic velocity.

There is a ~3" pathway of normal roadway that requires hope and confidence to transit. Knocking on wood, even though I've brushed the edge of this obstacle I've remained upright.
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People hit them from time to time, they crash, suffer various injuries ranging from damaged pride. I've seen trails where bollards had been removed, which makes me suspect lawsuits occurred.

I've been involved with MUP development in enough places to observe each municipality goes through the same learning process. Put up poor design, hear the complaints and/or lawsuits, react.
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Old 08-12-20, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
here where i live, there is alot of MUPs. Problem is there is lots of intentional obsticles. this one is actually one of the easier one.

i had few close calls with the ones that make the lane very narrow.

i wonder what will happen to me if my pedal strike the metal bollard while going say 12 mph?

will it snag my pedal and throw me off my bike? or will it just be a glancing blow and i keep upright and can keep pedaling?


What is that yellow pole to the left supposed to do ?
Where is this ? Japan ? China ?
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Old 08-12-20, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by holytrousers View Post
What is that yellow pole to the left supposed to do ?
Where is this ? Japan ? China ?

yellow is plastic that bend when u hit it.

the grey is metal...these must be remnants from the old days.

but there are still plenty of metal pedestrian signal posts and sign posts, for u to hit if not careful.

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Old 08-13-20, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
yellow is plastic that bend when u hit it.

the grey is metal...these must be remnants from the old days.

but there are still plenty of metal pedestrian signal posts and sign posts, for u to hit if not careful.
yeah looks useless behind that metal post. if you use that road frequently enough it might be useful to take care of it using some cordless angle grinder thus doing yourself and you community a huge favour
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Old 08-13-20, 05:07 PM
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Looks like there have been plenty of pedal strikes on that center bollard already.
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Old 08-13-20, 06:44 PM
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There's a very easy to see blue arrow instructing you where to properly make contact with the happy steel rainbow. Pretty sure if you hit it hard enough, in the exact right spot, gold will come out.
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Apparently a bollard placed where not entirely expected, away from a street corner, and in shade, without bright colors can lead to painful consequences.

Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
was having a nice ride on the Bruce Freeman Rail Trail heading from Acton toward Lowell until our ride came to a crashing halt (5 miles from the car) at Pond St, Chelmsford when Wifey struck a stanchion hiding in the shade & broke her wrist (crack in the radius bone). she was distracted by the lovely beach we just passed. I think her dark sunglasses in the bright sunlight & the object being in the shade contributed to the collision. we had been dodging them the whole ride. we were also dodging raised brick lane dividers. one of which she rode into / over earlier in the ride. she was so shaken up, that we stopped so she could regain her composure. then a few miles later, this ;-(

a town employee came over. as did another good samaritan, a woman with a car. the town employee said there has been MANY SERIOUS CRASHES into this particular stanchion. then he made a face indicating they were even more disasterious than this one. one can only imagine ...

I was ahead of her & when I heard her anticipatory yelling I turned to see her crash & go down. I stopped & ran to her aid. she didn't want to get up right away & was considering what was hurt. after some amateur trail side triage & after conferencing for a few minutes in the hot sun with the two people who offered help, we decided to let the woman with the car, drive Wifey to Emerson hospital. Wifey said she should get an x-ray & definitely could not ride back to the car. the gentleman watched her bike while I rode back to our car, then returned to get hers, before joining her at the emergency room. boy that Emerson is a well oiled machine! (plus it was slow yesterday, go figure) by time I got to the ER she was walking out with her temp soft cast

before the crash, while we were enjoying our ride she was talking about how she could work a partial bike commute into her daily work schedule. well that's not going to happen. & her first ride of the summer was her last. I doubt if in mid-August she will want to ride again, even tho she loves it so much. too far into the future to consider right now. she did enjoy the new insulated water bottle holder *sigh*

Pond St & Bruce Freeman Rail Trail





















As for myself, I'm always terrified to negotiate around the bollards when pulling my trailer, especially the large heavy cargo trailer that is often a tight squeeze.

There's a bridge with bollards up the McKenzie River that they are spaced so closely that an ordinary child trailer won't get through. I think I towed my Bike Friday suitcase trailer through, and had to disconnect and lift it over.
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