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Old 06-29-20, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Amt0571
If you can't find a Reba at 1000$, you can probably find a Manitou Markhor at that price range. Great fork for the price.
Seriously?

You are going to recommend a fork with 30mm stanchions and no compression adjustment over a fork with 32mm stanchions and Motion Control?

Sure, OK
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OP: If you can get a Recon RL in your price range, you will be doing very well in the fork dept. Motion Control is a good compression damper, it has 32mm stanchions (many budget forks are 30mm) and RS forks are super easy to break down and maintain.
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Originally Posted by Sealth
This is what I'm realizing. At this point it seems like I'd be lucky to find a bike at all.
If you are sure you want a bike, I’d go, not just call, to some local shops and find out if they have a waiting list.

I’have no idea how this is being handled. They may not know when they are getting a shipment. They might want a refundable deposit so they know you are serious otherwise they might have a thousand names to wade through.

You can probably get sized on a more expensive bike when you are there.

Just a thought.

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If the OP rides a small this might work, older Reba fork as well
Can't believe most BD bikes are also sold out
https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_...ls&ProdID=2499
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A bit of an update. A friend of mine is selling his 2016 Stumpjumper 27.5 for $2k. He said it's a $6k bike that he got for ~$4k because he got a deal through a friend that worked at a shop who built it for him. The suspension is Pike and some Fox shock. It has a dropper post and a nice hydraulic brakes. The components are supposed to be top notch. The frame is supposed to be for someone 5' 10" and I'm 6'. It seems like a good deal, but it's twice what I wanted to spend and honestly maybe too much for me right now. I took it for a ride and it was pretty awesome, though.

A local shop has a Rockhopper Elite that I'll be test riding on Monday. What other bikes should I be looking at? Is it worth trying some $1k Kona bikes like the Mahuna or Blast?
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Originally Posted by Amt0571
I wouldn't buy any of the RS Recon or Suntour XCM / XCR equipped bikes.
Why? Do you have personal experience with those Suntour forks?
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Why? Do you have personal experience with those Suntour forks?
Yes. They're not good in my opinion. I also have extended experience with an Axon and would not hesitate tu buy that or an Epixon again. Great forks for the price. Probably the best you can buy at that price range.
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Originally Posted by Amt0571
Yes. They're not good in my opinion. I also have extended experience with an Axon and would not hesitate tu buy that or an Epixon again. Great forks for the price. Probably the best you can buy at that price range.
What was your issue with them? I've liked those coil forks I've used. The Axon is an air fork.

See here:
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Originally Posted by Sealth
A bit of an update. A friend of mine is selling his 2016 Stumpjumper 27.5 for $2k. He said it's a $6k bike that he got for ~$4k because he got a deal through a friend that worked at a shop who built it for him. The suspension is Pike and some Fox shock. It has a dropper post and a nice hydraulic brakes. The components are supposed to be top notch. The frame is supposed to be for someone 5' 10" and I'm 6'. It seems like a good deal, but it's twice what I wanted to spend and honestly maybe too much for me right now. I took it for a ride and it was pretty awesome, though.

A local shop has a Rockhopper Elite that I'll be test riding on Monday. What other bikes should I be looking at? Is it worth trying some $1k Kona bikes like the Mahuna or Blast?
See if you can find another friend selling a 5yo $3000 bike for $1000 and you are all set.

Stumpjumpers are usually right down the middle of what everyone wants. It's not "too much bike," it's just more expensive level than you want to pay. Too much bike looks like this:
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Suntour XCn forks on sub-$1000 bikes have damping that ranges from nothing to subpar. I think most people who buy those bikes don't care and enjoy them. But if you want something better, most people who upgrade go to one of the premium brands, that will give you more adjustments with shim stacks and so on, in a full oil bath, that can be rebuilt, instead of Suntour's mystery cartridges.
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I have a 2019 Salsa Timberjack 27.5 + that was $1099. Now they have the 2020 Rangefinder Deore 29 for $1099. I highly recommend them.
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Originally Posted by RowdyTI
What was your issue with them? I've liked those coil forks I've used. The Axon is an air fork.

See here:
There is a lot more to a fork than coil vs air. You find high and low end forks with either.

But the spring is not what really differentiates a good fork from a bad one.

One big differentiator is the damping. How refined it is, and also how adjustable.

The other is the fork chassis (i.e., how stiff and straight tracking it is)
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I ended up buying a used 2017 Rockhopper sport for $300 on craigslist. I'm actually quite happy with this decision. I have a bike I can ride right now, and I can begin the process of upgrading the components. I got it at a good enough deal that I should end up with a pretty nice bike for less than $1k once I upgrade the components. I think I'll make a separate thread for that. Plus, I've been having serious trouble finding bikes at local stores.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
There is a lot more to a fork than coil vs air. You find high and low end forks with either.

But the spring is not what really differentiates a good fork from a bad one.

One big differentiator is the damping. How refined it is, and also how adjustable.

The other is the fork chassis (i.e., how stiff and straight tracking it is)
It would be good to see more mid to high end coil shocks.
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Originally Posted by Illinest
I don't understand the 1x focus. I got a 2x9 and I basically just treat it as a 1x9 most of the time. I'm sure 1x10 would be nice but...
My last two bikes have 1x (both GX Eagle), and I'll tell you..

I don't really get it either. A ton of people are spending a lot of money, throwing out perfectly good components and replacing them, mostly to achieve the right 'look'. Eagle works fine, but every time I rent a bike with a 2x drivetrain, I'm reminded how nice it is to shift the front when you crest a hill and ramp up your speed, or downshift the front when you hit the climb and need to grind. I also appreciate the smaller gear gaps, maybe it's the roadie in me.
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