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Old 11-23-18, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
And if Sparks from the power grid started them,?
Ban Overhead electric power lines?
I wonder if this can be done for the high voltage long distance transmission lines... can they be easily buried with their need for many layers of insulators?

Local lines, at lower voltages pose few problems, and I note that this IS being done in many residential areas.
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There's always talk of burying local lines here after a hurricane outage. But the cost is too prohibitive.
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Old 11-23-18, 08:24 PM
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It doesn't matter what type of situation happens.

When people panic, all bets are off.

I find its best to to analyze all of the potential hazards, (especially fire) in any crowded place.

If you live a in a fire prone area, it would be wise to reconsider if your escape options are severely limited.
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Old 11-23-18, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jon c.
There's always talk of burying local lines here after a hurricane outage. But the cost is too prohibitive.
They just did this near where I live, it took them less than a month.

No idea what the cost was, it was timed perfectly for the arrival of Xi Jinping.
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Old 11-24-18, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jon c.
There's always talk of burying local lines here after a hurricane outage. But the cost is too prohibitive.
.... compared to the cost of burning a tenth of the state,that is.
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Old 11-24-18, 03:04 PM
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You'r a little pessimistic with your figures. Cal fire figures show about 900,000 acres burned this year out of a total state area of 100 million. That's less than 1%. Still a significant number though. I wonder how that compares with the number of acres paved in the state. Couldn't find that. I'll leave it as an exercise.
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Old 11-24-18, 05:11 PM
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Explain road diet. I dont talk californiaese. does that mean taking a whole lane for bikes, or narrowing lanes for a bike lane?
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Explain road diet. I dont talk californiaese. does that mean taking a whole lane for bikes, or narrowing lanes for a bike lane?
I'll take a guess that it means narrowing the roads, or the traffic lane(s) available to motorists.

In some places, it can increase safety by reducing speeds.

Its becoming obvious that the age of the traditional petrol powered automotive industry is at or near its peak.

Downsizing is not going to be an alternative lifestyle choice anymore it seems
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Old 11-25-18, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Explain road diet. I dont talk californiaese. does that mean taking a whole lane for bikes, or narrowing lanes for a bike lane?
Usually it refers to the REMOVAL of one travel lane for cars, the widening of the remaining lane(s) for cars, and the addition of a striped or separated bike lane.

Sometimes this is simply a striped bike lane between moving cars and parked cars, but other communities prefer the bike lane against the curb, parked cars to the cyclist left, then moving cars beyond the parked cars. This make sense in several ways - it provides a barrier of parked cars between moving cars and cyclists and reduces the likelihood of a pedestrian popping out from between parked cars into the bike lane. Winning the door prize is still an issue but often road diets allow for a buffer zone between the parked cars and cyclists against the curb. Dooring incidents should decrease anyway because EVERY car has a driver, but not every car has passengers. Fewer people throwing doors open on the curb side means less doorings. Obviously, the cyclist should still assume the door will open at the worst time.
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Old 11-25-18, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike
...but other communities prefer the bike lane against the curb, parked cars to the cyclist left, then moving cars beyond the parked cars.

This make sense in several ways - it provides a barrier of parked cars between moving cars and cyclists and reduces the likelihood of a pedestrian popping out from between parked cars into the bike lane.

Winning the door prize is still an issue but often road diets allow for a buffer zone between the parked cars and cyclists against the curb. Dooring incidents should decrease anyway because EVERY car has a driver, but not every car has passengers. Fewer people throwing doors open on the curb side means less doorings.

Obviously, the cyclist should still assume the door will open at the worst time.
Nicely stated, @JoeyBike. I perenially post about Safety Aphorisms I keep in mind as I approach various situations where an unseen danger may lurk. For stopped (not just parked) cars, it’s “Like a weapon, assume every stopped car is loaded, with an occupant ready to exit from either side.

These bike lanes to the right of parked cars seem to be a relatively new innovation in Boston, but I articulated my aphorism when filtering or bypassing cars stopped at an intersection.
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Old 11-26-18, 02:27 PM
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road diet... energy wrappers causing fires?

at least one road wont be blocked by traffic
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