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Addiction LXXVI

Old 11-12-19, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
XC sucks, it's the first thing you're pushed into whenever you join a track team (and don't have obvious blazing speed). I'll never forget hearing news of the JFK assassination while in the locker room following XC practice. One of those "where were you" moments. Fortunately I had enough speed to graduate to doing more enjoyable 200 and 400 yard events.
I was all type-1 fiber and never had any speed at all, just willingness to suffer. XC is also the ultimate collegiate varsity nerd sport. Half the football offense came out for track and ruined it for us 3-milers.

And just to qualify, we are talking Div III, here.

P.S., Holy crap, you're old! College XC? I was in elementary school and all I remember is all the talk on the subway ride home and the day off the next day to watch the obsequies on TV.

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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Depends on whether they are not bibs shorts or bibs.
I ride 300 mi/wk in cutoff overalls and USMC Standard Issue khaki boxers. Think I should try cleats?
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Zwift intervals don't quite give me the post-ride analysis figures that TrainerRoad did...
What's missing?
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
I've been on the move since 5:30. Just got back to my desk.
Bike mechanics have desks?
Those three hours of the former life, yesterday, did me in for the rest of the day, and made me want to take today off too.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
I was all type-1 fiber and never had any speed at all, just willingness to suffer. XC is also the ultimate collegiate varsity nerd sport. Half the football offense came out for track and ruined it for us 3-milers.

And just to qualify, we are talking Div III, here.

P.S., Holy carp, you're old! College XC? I was in elementary school and all I remember is all the talk on the subway ride home and the day off the next day to watch the obsequies on TV.
Fixed.
I was in sixth grade. I remember it like it was yesterday.
My parents could not believe we elected a Catholic president.
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Originally Posted by LAJ View Post
Word. Socks don't even have to match....
Or be on your feet at all. Bare feet will even do.
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Amateur bike racing is just a fun thing, as far as I know, there's no penalty for not winning.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
I was all type-1 fiber and never had any speed at all, just willingness to suffer. XC is also the ultimate collegiate varsity nerd sport. Half the football offense came out for track and ruined it for us 3-milers.

And just to qualify, we are talking Div III, here.

P.S., Holy crap, you're old! College XC? I was in elementary school and all I remember is all the talk on the subway ride home and the day off the next day to watch the obsequies on TV.
He is old. I was still in diapers.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
Bike mechanics have desks?
Those three hours of the former life, yesterday, did me in for the rest of the day, and made me want to take today off too.
The activity that pays the bills involves a desk.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
What's missing?
That I can see, the only post-ride analysis is a star system, telling you how many of the interval sessions you successfully completed; my last ride was 7/8 stars, probably because I (intentionally) went over target on one of my intervals. Other than that, they just let you download a .fit file, presumably to upload it to something more comprehensive, maybe like Golden Cheetah?

With TR, they had interval-by-interval breakdown - target number, results, how much your power drifted during the interval, etc. Power curve stuff, both absolute and weighted, along with PRs and when they were set. Training Stress. I take it that they've added more of that kind of fun stuff since, but again, it doesn't have than much value to me.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Plus, I already have the trainer set up.

Zwift intervals don't quite give me the post-ride analysis figures that TrainerRoad did (and now TR has gone much deeper, from what I gather, but I'd not be making much use of that, anyway), but that's really a secondary concern. The main thing is having decent workouts available and the metrics on-screen (I'm a simple man). In that regard, Zwift is good enough. The graphics/courses are occasionally a nice distraction, but it's really neither here nor there most of the time. Maybe I'll join a virtual group ride sometime, but if that never happens it's a-okay, too.
Look at the elevate plug-in for chrome (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...cgicpckn?hl=en) and also https://intervals.icu/ website. Between the two, there's a lot of data.

Edit:
Ahh, you're looking for dynamic feedback. I don't know of anything like that in Zwift.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
That I can see, the only post-ride analysis is a star system, telling you how many of the interval sessions you successfully completed; my last ride was 7/8 stars, probably because I (intentionally) went over target on one of my intervals. Other than that, they just let you download a .fit file, presumably to upload it to something more comprehensive, maybe like Golden Cheetah?

With TR, they had interval-by-interval breakdown - target number, results, how much your power drifted during the interval, etc. Power curve stuff, both absolute and weighted, along with PRs and when they were set. Training Stress. I take it that they've added more of that kind of fun stuff since, but again, it doesn't have than much value to me.
Oh, right. There's nothing in the app, itself, but the data are all there.
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There are various third-party apps that work with Zwift, some of them work concurrently during the ride to do different things, I'd be surprised if there wasn't something that does what you're talking about.

I usually go to Zwift Insider first when I'm looking for technical info.
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So...I was browsing NAHBS's site and saw this from SaltAir Bicycles. Best New Builder winner in 2017.

Hot or not?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
So...I was browsing NAHBS's site and saw this from SaltAir Bicycles. Best New Builder winner in 2017.

Hot or not?
Not hot. ISP's are so 2016. Sad.
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Not hot. ISP's are so 2016. Sad.
What's an ISP, aside from Internet Service Provider?
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Integrated Seat Post, I believe.
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Integrated Seat Post, I believe.
Didn't know ISPs were a thing. I don't get the why of it.
Big Marketing?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
So...I was browsing NAHBS's site and saw this from SaltAir Bicycles. Best New Builder winner in 2017.

Hot or not?
I would ride it. Especially if this infernal rain would stop.
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Didn't know ISPs were a thing. I don't get the why of it.
Big Marketing?
If it's bespoke, you can have the ISP made to the proper length, which saves some weight over a typical configuration... but mostly it's just because they can.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
So...I was browsing NAHBS's site and saw this from SaltAir Bicycles. Best New Builder winner in 2017.

Hot or not?
Not. I mean, it's clean and it looks like it's well built... but other than the divisive ISP, there's not much visually memorable/distinctive about it.
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Integrated Seat Post, I believe.
Ah. Thanks. My former landlord has a Ritte with an ISP.
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I mean, it's clean
I think that's why I like it.
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I do expect the future of Lego is gravel.
I always used to say that the way to really get back at someone while appearing innocent would be to give their child an Easter basket with a Lego kit in it. Chances are the adult will step on a stray Lego at some point and pay the price and Easter grass is impossible to entirely get rid of. You could top even this plan by putting glitter in the card.
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Hey Ramona,

I listened to TPOH. I bought their first CD back in the late 80’s. I probably only play it every couple of years now, but I do know them. Canadian power-pop band.
"I'm An Adult Now" resonated and it was a switch-up from Danzig's first album.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
What's an ISP, aside from Internet Service Provider?
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Integrated Seat Post, I believe.
Correct.
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