2014 Flying 200m Challenge
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[TABLE="class: grid, width: 250, align: left"]
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[TD]Baby Puke[/TD]
[TD]11.40"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jaytron[/TD]
[TD]11.56"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Quinn8it[/TD]
[TD]10.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian Ratliff[/TD]
[TD]11.99"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Imprezza_al[/TD]
[TD]11.67"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sisomphone[/TD]
[TD]12.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Queerpunk[/TD]
[TD]12.13"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Loverrellik[/TD]
[TD]13.15"[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Carleton[/TD]
[TD]11.50"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JMR[/TD]
[TD]11.20"[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Kayce[/TD]
[TD]14.17"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]tsto[/TD]
[TD]11.54"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trackliche[/TD]
[TD]11.70"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Velocirapture[/TD]
[TD]14.09"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bikenutr2000[/TD]
[TD]14.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amybikes[/TD]
[TD]12.30"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Allegheny Jet[/TD]
[TD]12.47"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VanceMac[/TD]
[TD]12.21"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saba[/TD]
[TD]12.38"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]AlexTaylor[/TD]
[TD]12.72"[/TD]
[/TR]
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I think its current... Anyone else want in?
[TR]
[TD]Baby Puke[/TD]
[TD]11.40"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jaytron[/TD]
[TD]11.56"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Quinn8it[/TD]
[TD]10.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian Ratliff[/TD]
[TD]11.99"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Imprezza_al[/TD]
[TD]11.67"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sisomphone[/TD]
[TD]12.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Queerpunk[/TD]
[TD]12.13"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Loverrellik[/TD]
[TD]13.15"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carleton[/TD]
[TD]11.50"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JMR[/TD]
[TD]11.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kayce[/TD]
[TD]14.17"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]tsto[/TD]
[TD]11.54"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trackliche[/TD]
[TD]11.70"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Velocirapture[/TD]
[TD]14.09"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bikenutr2000[/TD]
[TD]14.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amybikes[/TD]
[TD]12.30"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Allegheny Jet[/TD]
[TD]12.47"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VanceMac[/TD]
[TD]12.21"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saba[/TD]
[TD]12.38"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]AlexTaylor[/TD]
[TD]12.72"[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
I think its current... Anyone else want in?
Last edited by Quinn8it; 01-21-14 at 12:20 AM.
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True, that. But unless you are very low fat, and/ or eating badly for the training & recovery you do, its mostly fat.
Hopefully the people doing the long distances, in the context of this list, that could result in the body consuming muscle, are doing the right fueling to prevent it.
Hopefully the people doing the long distances, in the context of this list, that could result in the body consuming muscle, are doing the right fueling to prevent it.
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Still can win with the slowest time. But between starting my own courier company and being track director, I don't know if I can pull it off.
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True, that. But unless you are very low fat, and/ or eating badly for the training & recovery you do, its mostly fat.
Hopefully the people doing the long distances, in the context of this list, that could result in the body consuming muscle, are doing the right fueling to prevent it.
Hopefully the people doing the long distances, in the context of this list, that could result in the body consuming muscle, are doing the right fueling to prevent it.
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Hi!
New to this track racing lark, just started with some SQTs last year at my local outdoor velodrome. Did a 13.2 f200 on a rickety hire bike with 84" gear. According to the spreadsheet I am aiming for a 12.72. I should get my new track bike next week and have my licence accreditation at Manc velodrome tonight.
I am completely new to track (I had done a couple of 'taster sessions') racing and can't wait for my sumer season to start!
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
New to this track racing lark, just started with some SQTs last year at my local outdoor velodrome. Did a 13.2 f200 on a rickety hire bike with 84" gear. According to the spreadsheet I am aiming for a 12.72. I should get my new track bike next week and have my licence accreditation at Manc velodrome tonight.
I am completely new to track (I had done a couple of 'taster sessions') racing and can't wait for my sumer season to start!
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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[TABLE="class: grid, width: 250, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD]Baby Puke[/TD]
[TD]11.40"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jaytron[/TD]
[TD]11.56"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Quinn8it[/TD]
[TD]10.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian Ratliff[/TD]
[TD]11.99"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Imprezza_al[/TD]
[TD]11.67"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sisomphone[/TD]
[TD]12.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Queerpunk[/TD]
[TD]12.13"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Loverrellik[/TD]
[TD]13.15"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carleton[/TD]
[TD]11.50"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JMR[/TD]
[TD]11.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kayce[/TD]
[TD]14.17"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]tsto[/TD]
[TD]11.54"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trackliche[/TD]
[TD]11.70"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Velocirapture[/TD]
[TD]14.09"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bikenutr2000[/TD]
[TD]14.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amybikes[/TD]
[TD]12.30"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Allegheny Jet[/TD]
[TD]12.47"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VanceMac[/TD]
[TD]12.21"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saba[/TD]
[TD]12.38"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]AlexTaylor[/TD]
[TD]12.72"[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Baby Puke[/TD]
[TD]11.40"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jaytron[/TD]
[TD]11.56"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Quinn8it[/TD]
[TD]10.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian Ratliff[/TD]
[TD]11.99"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Imprezza_al[/TD]
[TD]11.67"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sisomphone[/TD]
[TD]12.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Queerpunk[/TD]
[TD]12.13"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Loverrellik[/TD]
[TD]13.15"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carleton[/TD]
[TD]11.50"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JMR[/TD]
[TD]11.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kayce[/TD]
[TD]14.17"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]tsto[/TD]
[TD]11.54"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trackliche[/TD]
[TD]11.70"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Velocirapture[/TD]
[TD]14.09"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bikenutr2000[/TD]
[TD]14.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amybikes[/TD]
[TD]12.30"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Allegheny Jet[/TD]
[TD]12.47"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VanceMac[/TD]
[TD]12.21"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saba[/TD]
[TD]12.38"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]AlexTaylor[/TD]
[TD]12.72"[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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I will not even post my time for two reasons. Racing at 400m Outdoor Bumpy Kissena Track will never allow anyone to set anytype of competitive time. On the other hand my one and only Flying 200m at Trexlertown -333m was a second better, but it was an experience of feeling the force in the turns and keeping my line.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
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I will not even post my time for two reasons. Racing at 400m Outdoor Bumpy Kissena Track will never allow anyone to set anytype of competitive time. On the other hand my one and only Flying 200m at Trexlertown -333m was a second better, but it was an experience of feeling the force in the turns and keeping my line.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
Kissena is your home track. This is where you will do most of your work and it will be the first place you see your gains. So, maybe define your baseline and target times as "Kissena Times" and measure those.
The sprinters who race in Colorado Springs have the same problem, yet inverse. They race at altitude and generally run 0.5" faster than at sea-level. When they travel, their times are slower.
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I appreciate it, I'll have to look for it.
No Problem, I expect better things if my back ever heals. oh, to be young again
Keep things relative. We all know that different tracks have different handicaps.
Kissena is your home track. This is where you will do most of your work and it will be the first place you see your gains. So, maybe define your baseline and target times as "Kissena Times" and measure those.
The sprinters who race in Colorado Springs have the same problem, yet inverse. They race at altitude and generally run 0.5" faster than at sea-level. When they travel, their times are slower.
Kissena is your home track. This is where you will do most of your work and it will be the first place you see your gains. So, maybe define your baseline and target times as "Kissena Times" and measure those.
The sprinters who race in Colorado Springs have the same problem, yet inverse. They race at altitude and generally run 0.5" faster than at sea-level. When they travel, their times are slower.
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DLV pr: 12.44
goal:12.07
don't see it being too hard if I actually do any speed work this year. I'm a lot stronger than I was last year! Just haven't had much bike time due to getting really sick in november then getting hit by a car in december.
goal:12.07
don't see it being too hard if I actually do any speed work this year. I'm a lot stronger than I was last year! Just haven't had much bike time due to getting really sick in november then getting hit by a car in december.
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I will not even post my time for two reasons. Racing at 400m Outdoor Bumpy Kissena Track will never allow anyone to set anytype of competitive time. On the other hand my one and only Flying 200m at Trexlertown -333m was a second better, but it was an experience of feeling the force in the turns and keeping my line.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
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I will not even post my time for two reasons. Racing at 400m Outdoor Bumpy Kissena Track will never allow anyone to set anytype of competitive time. On the other hand my one and only Flying 200m at Trexlertown -333m was a second better, but it was an experience of feeling the force in the turns and keeping my line.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
I know I'm old and slow but a nice banked track makes a difference.
This is a no judgement zone - all based on encouragement and improvement, not on relative merit.
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Thanks, I just have to do some homework and pull the time out of the archives. When we had the States in September and it was at Kissena we skipped the 200m to rank us for the Match Sprints since we were losing day light. i'll find it and I do understand all the positive comments.
I'd say just do it. We know you're old, we know you race at Kissena (I know well how the sprint lane isn't even on the banking; I know that dip in the sprint lane in turn 4, right where you're at top speed in a sprint!).
This is a no judgement zone - all based on encouragement and improvement, not on relative merit.
This is a no judgement zone - all based on encouragement and improvement, not on relative merit.
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[TABLE="class: grid, width: 250, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD]Baby Puke[/TD]
[TD]11.40"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jaytron[/TD]
[TD]11.56"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Quinn8it[/TD]
[TD]10.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian Ratliff[/TD]
[TD]11.99"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Imprezza_al[/TD]
[TD]11.67"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sisomphone[/TD]
[TD]12.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Queerpunk[/TD]
[TD]12.13"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Loverrellik[/TD]
[TD]13.15"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carleton[/TD]
[TD]11.50"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JMR[/TD]
[TD]11.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kayce[/TD]
[TD]14.17"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]tsto[/TD]
[TD]11.54"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trackliche[/TD]
[TD]11.70"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Velocirapture[/TD]
[TD]14.09"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bikenutr2000[/TD]
[TD]14.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amybikes[/TD]
[TD]12.30"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Allegheny Jet[/TD]
[TD]12.47"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VanceMac[/TD]
[TD]12.21"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saba[/TD]
[TD]12.38"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]AlexTaylor[/TD]
[TD]12.72"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]theblackbullet[/TD]
[TD]12.07"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Not the slowest[/TD]
[TD]14.70"[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Baby Puke[/TD]
[TD]11.40"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jaytron[/TD]
[TD]11.56"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Quinn8it[/TD]
[TD]10.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brian Ratliff[/TD]
[TD]11.99"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Imprezza_al[/TD]
[TD]11.67"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sisomphone[/TD]
[TD]12.95"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Queerpunk[/TD]
[TD]12.13"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Loverrellik[/TD]
[TD]13.15"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carleton[/TD]
[TD]11.50"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JMR[/TD]
[TD]11.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kayce[/TD]
[TD]14.17"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]tsto[/TD]
[TD]11.54"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Trackliche[/TD]
[TD]11.70"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Velocirapture[/TD]
[TD]14.09"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bikenutr2000[/TD]
[TD]14.20"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Amybikes[/TD]
[TD]12.30"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Allegheny Jet[/TD]
[TD]12.47"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]VanceMac[/TD]
[TD]12.21"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Saba[/TD]
[TD]12.38"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]AlexTaylor[/TD]
[TD]12.72"[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]theblackbullet[/TD]
[TD]12.07"[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Not the slowest[/TD]
[TD]14.70"[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
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Took me some time to find it, but on June 9 2013 I was at a wopping 15.71.
Okay don't laugh but let me put things in perspective.
That night the fastest Cat 3 (cat 2 on the road) was 12.71. One other was in the 13+ range. Everyone else was in the 14-15 range.
Tough on low banked 400M track as you can't even get a good wind up. I also think that in our season we did only 1 flying 200, it's tough when we race one night a week.
For what it's worth I did a 14.40 at T-town on my first race ever there and I was high on the 3-4 turns.
My goal at Kissena for 2014? Hmmm, 14.70, and maybe a 14.10at T-town?
Robert
Okay don't laugh but let me put things in perspective.
That night the fastest Cat 3 (cat 2 on the road) was 12.71. One other was in the 13+ range. Everyone else was in the 14-15 range.
Tough on low banked 400M track as you can't even get a good wind up. I also think that in our season we did only 1 flying 200, it's tough when we race one night a week.
For what it's worth I did a 14.40 at T-town on my first race ever there and I was high on the 3-4 turns.
My goal at Kissena for 2014? Hmmm, 14.70, and maybe a 14.10at T-town?
Robert
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Took me some time to find it, but on June 9 2013 I was at a wopping 15.71.
Okay don't laugh but let me put things in perspective.
That night the fastest Cat 3 (cat 2 on the road) was 12.71. One other was in the 13+ range. Everyone else was in the 14-15 range.
Tough on low banked 400M track as you can't even get a good wind up. I also think that in our season we did only 1 flying 200, it's tough when we race one night a week.
For what it's worth I did a 14.40 at T-town on my first race ever there and I was high on the 3-4 turns.
My goal at Kissena for 2014? Hmmm, 14.70, and maybe a 14.10at T-town?
Robert
Okay don't laugh but let me put things in perspective.
That night the fastest Cat 3 (cat 2 on the road) was 12.71. One other was in the 13+ range. Everyone else was in the 14-15 range.
Tough on low banked 400M track as you can't even get a good wind up. I also think that in our season we did only 1 flying 200, it's tough when we race one night a week.
For what it's worth I did a 14.40 at T-town on my first race ever there and I was high on the 3-4 turns.
My goal at Kissena for 2014? Hmmm, 14.70, and maybe a 14.10at T-town?
Robert
How many flying 200s have you ever done? They get better with practice. I've seen people with high F200M times take off full seconds when they do their windup differently.
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Not fretting...yet.
So let's see, This will be my 3nd year on the track.
I think in 2012 I did 3 and one was in the Clinic.
In 2013, I did one at Kissena which is the time I posted and then one at Trexlertown.
I have practiced the skills incorporated for the 200m at Kissena, but for some reason we never get it in the schedule. This is one of the short comings of a 2 hour window to race in, it just takes too long and really should be on a night other than racing. The track is open and available except when the Juniors practice which is weekdays from 4-6pm during the season.
I must say that the first race I did at T-town was a flying 200 and I did "okay". The pull in the banked sprinters lane felt great and I had to work at staying inside. However, after that one time I was much more comfortable with it.
I may do a road trip this summer to try some other tracks as I can not get to T-town on the weekend and as a Cat 4 I am not allowed to race there during the weekday schedule. I am sure that I will never get to Cat 3 not simply because of my ability, but because of lack of races at Kissena.
So let's see, This will be my 3nd year on the track.
I think in 2012 I did 3 and one was in the Clinic.
In 2013, I did one at Kissena which is the time I posted and then one at Trexlertown.
I have practiced the skills incorporated for the 200m at Kissena, but for some reason we never get it in the schedule. This is one of the short comings of a 2 hour window to race in, it just takes too long and really should be on a night other than racing. The track is open and available except when the Juniors practice which is weekdays from 4-6pm during the season.
I must say that the first race I did at T-town was a flying 200 and I did "okay". The pull in the banked sprinters lane felt great and I had to work at staying inside. However, after that one time I was much more comfortable with it.
I may do a road trip this summer to try some other tracks as I can not get to T-town on the weekend and as a Cat 4 I am not allowed to race there during the weekday schedule. I am sure that I will never get to Cat 3 not simply because of my ability, but because of lack of races at Kissena.
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Not fretting...yet.
So let's see, This will be my 3nd year on the track.
I think in 2012 I did 3 and one was in the Clinic.
In 2013, I did one at Kissena which is the time I posted and then one at Trexlertown.
I have practiced the skills incorporated for the 200m at Kissena, but for some reason we never get it in the schedule. This is one of the short comings of a 2 hour window to race in, it just takes too long and really should be on a night other than racing. The track is open and available except when the Juniors practice which is weekdays from 4-6pm during the season.
I must say that the first race I did at T-town was a flying 200 and I did "okay". The pull in the banked sprinters lane felt great and I had to work at staying inside. However, after that one time I was much more comfortable with it.
I may do a road trip this summer to try some other tracks as I can not get to T-town on the weekend and as a Cat 4 I am not allowed to race there during the weekday schedule. I am sure that I will never get to Cat 3 not simply because of my ability, but because of lack of races at Kissena.
So let's see, This will be my 3nd year on the track.
I think in 2012 I did 3 and one was in the Clinic.
In 2013, I did one at Kissena which is the time I posted and then one at Trexlertown.
I have practiced the skills incorporated for the 200m at Kissena, but for some reason we never get it in the schedule. This is one of the short comings of a 2 hour window to race in, it just takes too long and really should be on a night other than racing. The track is open and available except when the Juniors practice which is weekdays from 4-6pm during the season.
I must say that the first race I did at T-town was a flying 200 and I did "okay". The pull in the banked sprinters lane felt great and I had to work at staying inside. However, after that one time I was much more comfortable with it.
I may do a road trip this summer to try some other tracks as I can not get to T-town on the weekend and as a Cat 4 I am not allowed to race there during the weekday schedule. I am sure that I will never get to Cat 3 not simply because of my ability, but because of lack of races at Kissena.
To put things into perspective, many riders will do 3 or 6 flying 200 type efforts as part of their daily WARMUP! Here's a typical warmup:
- 20-30 lap paceline (depending on track length)
- Fully Seated flying 100M with a 3 lap windup at the top of the boards.
- Standing (meaning jump out of the saddle) flying 100M with a 3 lap windup at the top of the boards.
- Flying 100M or Flying 200M with a 3 lap windup at the top of the boards.
- (some repeat the seated, standing, flying efforts again)
- Then proceed with the race day events.
That's for everyone at the track.
Sprinters will entire days where they might do 5-10 Flying 100M and/or Flying 200M efforts on various gears with varying windups.
The flying 200M is a mix of power, speed, and technique with a bit of power-endurance. The technique is very important. It can be compared to let's say, the high jump in track & field (athletics). In that event, a person can be as strong, fast, fit, light as possible, but if they don't land the technique, they will achieve nowhere near their potential.
Notice that this event also has "windups" and "jump spots" which are crucial to maximize the effort:
Skip to the 1:00 mark in this video and you can see how the athlete instructs the newbie. Flying 200M instruction is very similar.
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Cheers for that vid Carleton!
so in my next f200 i approach the finish line in a J curve and end up on my back?
so in my next f200 i approach the finish line in a J curve and end up on my back?