Frameset suggestions?
03-04-20, 09:47 AM
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Frameset suggestions?
Hello,
Planning on building a gravel bike this year, but wanted to see if ya'll know of any framesets that would be good for me to look at. Seriously considering the Jamis Renegade steel at $850.
This is what I'm looking for:
1). 40mm or more tire clearance
2). 3 + water bottle cages
3). Steel or carbon fiber frame
Any suggestions?
Dave
Planning on building a gravel bike this year, but wanted to see if ya'll know of any framesets that would be good for me to look at. Seriously considering the Jamis Renegade steel at $850.
This is what I'm looking for:
1). 40mm or more tire clearance
2). 3 + water bottle cages
3). Steel or carbon fiber frame
Any suggestions?
Dave
03-04-20, 10:52 AM
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Hello,
Planning on building a gravel bike this year, but wanted to see if ya'll know of any framesets that would be good for me to look at. Seriously considering the Jamis Renegade steel at $850.
This is what I'm looking for:
1). 40mm or more tire clearance
2). 3 + water bottle cages
3). Steel or carbon fiber frame
Any suggestions?
Dave
Planning on building a gravel bike this year, but wanted to see if ya'll know of any framesets that would be good for me to look at. Seriously considering the Jamis Renegade steel at $850.
This is what I'm looking for:
1). 40mm or more tire clearance
2). 3 + water bottle cages
3). Steel or carbon fiber frame
Any suggestions?
Dave
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03-04-20, 12:08 PM
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Here are a few steel frames with carbon forks. Different geometry on them, but all meet your list. All are more expensive than the Jamis(which is a strong deal) but maybe one of these matches something you want more than the Jamis.
$1300 All City Cosmic Stallion- https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/cosmic_stallion
$1285 Fairlight Secan- https://fairlightcycles.com/product/...v=79cba1185463
$1700 Otso Warakin- https://otsocycles.com/products/warakin-frameset
$1300 All City Cosmic Stallion- https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/cosmic_stallion
$1285 Fairlight Secan- https://fairlightcycles.com/product/...v=79cba1185463
$1700 Otso Warakin- https://otsocycles.com/products/warakin-frameset
03-04-20, 12:23 PM
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Add the Black Mountain Cycles "Road Plus" to your list.
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03-04-20, 01:24 PM
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03-04-20, 01:33 PM
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Here are a few steel frames with carbon forks. Different geometry on them, but all meet your list. All are more expensive than the Jamis(which is a strong deal) but maybe one of these matches something you want more than the Jamis.
$1300 All City Cosmic Stallion- https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/cosmic_stallion
$1285 Fairlight Secan- https://fairlightcycles.com/product/...v=79cba1185463
$1700 Otso Warakin- https://otsocycles.com/products/warakin-frameset
$1300 All City Cosmic Stallion- https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/cosmic_stallion
$1285 Fairlight Secan- https://fairlightcycles.com/product/...v=79cba1185463
$1700 Otso Warakin- https://otsocycles.com/products/warakin-frameset
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03-04-20, 01:45 PM
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My LBS stocks the Cosmic Stallion bikes. Looks nice.
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With roughly similar geometry, stack/reach params, perhaps ...
Velo-Orange Piolet -- 4130 double-butted chromoly steel; 29x2.4", 27.5x3.0" (M, L, XL), or 26x2.4" (S); 3 water bottle mounts on frame, 2 on fork blades. About $725 for the frame+fork.
Kona Rove ST -- Kona proprietary butted chromoly steel; 650x47mm; 3 water bottle mounts on frame. About $600-700 for the frame+fork.
Kona Rove LTD (2018 MY) -- Reynolds 853 butted chromoly steel, with carbon fork; 650x47mm; 3 water bottle mounts on frame. (Not in the 2020 MY line-up. And fairly spendy as compared to the Jamis entry considered in the OP. Was ~$1500 for frame+fork.)
Velo-Orange Piolet -- 4130 double-butted chromoly steel; 29x2.4", 27.5x3.0" (M, L, XL), or 26x2.4" (S); 3 water bottle mounts on frame, 2 on fork blades. About $725 for the frame+fork.
Kona Rove ST -- Kona proprietary butted chromoly steel; 650x47mm; 3 water bottle mounts on frame. About $600-700 for the frame+fork.
Kona Rove LTD (2018 MY) -- Reynolds 853 butted chromoly steel, with carbon fork; 650x47mm; 3 water bottle mounts on frame. (Not in the 2020 MY line-up. And fairly spendy as compared to the Jamis entry considered in the OP. Was ~$1500 for frame+fork.)
03-04-20, 02:24 PM
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The difference between the Renegade and the Cosmic Stallion is pretty small. The price isn't though. You'd do well with either.
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03-04-20, 09:37 PM
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Couldnt find a frame weight on the all City, but based on the complete weight, I think the Jamis is a little lighter too.
$450 is a LOT for an awesome paint job. Form over function a little bit there. The all City is like a piece of art.
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03-05-20, 08:34 AM
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The Geo is pretty similar. Without looking at a Geo chart, looks like the Jamis top tube slopes down more by the seat tube, so it might be more comfortable to ride.
Couldnt find a frame weight on the all City, but based on the complete weight, I think the Jamis is a little lighter too.
$450 is a LOT for an awesome paint job. Form over function a little bit there. The all City is like a piece of art.
Dave
Couldnt find a frame weight on the all City, but based on the complete weight, I think the Jamis is a little lighter too.
$450 is a LOT for an awesome paint job. Form over function a little bit there. The all City is like a piece of art.
Dave
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03-05-20, 08:38 PM
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Maybe they are built in the same factory? Cool that you rode both. What was your impression of the ride?
