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Old 08-28-20, 09:25 AM
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FS: 1958-59 Rudge Pathfinder Grand Prix (Raleigh Lenton)

A well-preserved Rudge Pathfinder Grand Prix (23" size from the rod-shifting 2x4 years) for sale or ideally, trade.

Condition is very much as-found, with some careful cleaning to determine the underlying condition. Bike appears to be all original, save for tires and a newer saddle, and a missing "GB" locknut from front calipers. Stem and seatpost free, no frame cracks or bends apparent, and while BB and headset doubtless need attention they turn easily without indexing or play. Both brakes need freeing up, but apart from that the bike seems eminently rideable - the Cyclo Benelux gear train all seems present and correct to my unschooled eyes.

There are a few small paint chips around the frame, and signs of wear along the upper ridge of the top tube, but hardly any rust - worst is a pea-sized patch just below the headset. Front rim shows the most wear, with more stubborn peppering, some signs of rim impact and a missing chunk of material around the valve stem. Peppering on chrome & steel parts is coming off with minimal effort, except for the cheaper plating on the Christophe toe clips. Fenders have taken a beating but appear original with Rudge decal on the rear.

Local pickup only - I don't dare take this one apart myself, but happy to work with your trusted facilitator/shipper and I'm open to driving it to rendezvous points north of NYC.

SOLD As a straight sale, $450

However ... I'd prefer to "swap" the rare find inside the BF community for something that I can better use/appreciate. eg. 60-61cm tourers from early-mid-80s (minty Expeditions, Pro Tours, Odysseys etc.) or interesting sports/tourers from the preceding years... a 1960s Cinelli frameset in original condition, because a guy can dream, right? I know preferences are subjective and all that, but I like tasty things so feel free to ping me with what you've got in mind.

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Old 08-28-20, 09:29 AM
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...more photos here:









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Drooling!

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That is a super cool C and Ver... It was fun looking at the gearing and trying to figure out the workings...the exquisite headbadge, early Reynolds 531 sticker, and the sloped shiny rims.
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Old 08-28-20, 12:52 PM
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That is a beautiful bike! GLWS
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Old 08-28-20, 06:44 PM
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That thing is so cool. The decals, the rod shifting front der., that metal R bracket hanging off of the fork. :Chef's kiss: Wish I had unlimited money and space... This does give me some crazy ideas to backdate my 80's Claud Butler frame when I recommission it.

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Originally Posted by tricky
That thing is so cool.
quoted for emphasis
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Old 08-28-20, 09:01 PM
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Yes, the headbadge is glorious. What was the hand supposed to represent, I wonder?


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If you were local to me, I likely would not have been able to talk myself out of buying this thing.

This bike will sell locally I would guess without too much trouble. And local sales are better.
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Old 08-29-20, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by niliraga
Yes, the headbadge is glorious. What was the hand supposed to represent, I wonder?
The Red Hand of Ulster!
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Old 08-29-20, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nlerner
...or the "Open Hand of Honesty"!

https://www.stratford-rudge.co.uk/truth.htm
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Originally Posted by niliraga
...or the "Open Hand of Honesty"!

Rudge-Whitworth - 'The Truth Behind the Hand'
Just revisionist arguments. It was simple marketing or propaganda to say that it represents 'honesty'. The website claims the origins date back to the 19th century when in fact it goes back centuries before (1335 on Wikipedia). It's impossible to separate the politics from the symbolic meaning of the hand.
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Certainly the Red Hand goes wayyyy further back into dark ages, and even turns up in Scottish heraldry as a result. I think that article was leaning towards this being an open hand, rather than the special Red hand.

Maybe it's significant that the field of the Rudge emblem is red, but the hand itself is not.

fun digressions!

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Just revisionist arguments. It was simple marketing or propaganda to say that it represents 'honesty'. The website claims the origins date back to the 19th century when in fact it goes back centuries before (1335 on Wikipedia). It's impossible to separate the politics from the symbolic meaning of the hand.
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If this were a 1956 I would be all over this. I have a Centurion Pro-Tour but it is a 56/58mm, the other thing is it is in Lancaster, PA and I am in Cambodia so I could not do the swap easily.
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How big of a tire fits in there?
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=) I reckon you could run 35mm GravelKings on this bad boy, yes you could. (actually. limit would be the chainstays)


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How big of a tire fits in there?
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bump for price drop!
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Time for a free bump. This bike is beautiful and deserves a good home.
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thanks, bikemig , and also a good moment to drop it to 450!
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Someone should want such a beautiful classic.
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Hmm, I’d be tempted to trade a tourer for that one. Distance is the only thing giving me pause. It seems like all my bikes at this point are 1980s touring bikes.
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Originally Posted by noglider
Someone should want such a beautiful classic.
It would be a great match for my 1951 New Hudson single speed but I'm over here in California... That's my tough luck! For the current price plus shipping I'm pretty sure I'd buy it and cherish it for quite some time!

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Also, further afield is a possibility... owner of my LBS is a careful enough wrench with vintage gear that I would be comfortable having him break it down for shipping, and he charges $75 for the prep. So domestic destinations via bikeflights are possible too.


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It would be a great match for my 1951 New Hudson single speed but I'm over here in California... That's my tough luck! For the current price plus shipping I'm pretty sure I'd buy it and cherish it for quite some time!

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Did you sell this bike? I'm tempted...
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no67el it's still here, tucked up warm and dry. i bring it hot tea and a biscuit every so often - wayward englishmen find that comforting.
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