The Colombians Are Dominating
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The Colombians Are Dominating
4 Colombians in the top 10 with several more competing for the top young rider position. It looks as if they are poised to be a dominant force for many years to come. Going off memory, I couldn't recall the Colombians historically being players at all. I Googled up the 2010 results and there was not a Colombian to be found (unless I overlooked one.) It wasn't until 2015 that Colombia had two riders in the top 50. Last year they had the winner and two others in the top 10.
I am interested in how this evolution took place, but I am coming up empty in trying to figure it out. Is there something to be learned from them?
I am interested in how this evolution took place, but I am coming up empty in trying to figure it out. Is there something to be learned from them?
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Just talking TdF? Well Urán showed up at the 2009 Tdf and missed being in the top ten for the white jersey by 1 place. He was 52'd for the yellow.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...erto-uran/2009
2006 and 2007 they were getting almost as many wins as in recent years. Maybe not as popular of races and tours.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
2009 and 2010 saw Coumbian's taking 1st place in the baby Giro tour.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...sarmiento/2009
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...-betancur/2010
I guess I'm not sure what to say. They've been around for a long time. But just not in the one race we all seem to put emphasis on, the TdF.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nation/co
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...erto-uran/2009
2006 and 2007 they were getting almost as many wins as in recent years. Maybe not as popular of races and tours.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
2009 and 2010 saw Coumbian's taking 1st place in the baby Giro tour.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...sarmiento/2009
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...-betancur/2010
I guess I'm not sure what to say. They've been around for a long time. But just not in the one race we all seem to put emphasis on, the TdF.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nation/co
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Just talking TdF? Well Urán showed up at the 2009 Tdf and missed being in the top ten for the white jersey by 1 place. He was 52'd for the yellow.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...erto-uran/2009
2006 and 2007 they were getting almost as many wins as in recent years. Maybe not as popular of races and tours.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
2009 and 2010 saw Coumbian's taking 1st place in the baby Giro tour.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...sarmiento/2009
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...-betancur/2010
I guess I'm not sure what to say. They've been around for a long time. But just not in the one race we all seem to put emphasis on, the TdF.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nation/co
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...erto-uran/2009
2006 and 2007 they were getting almost as many wins as in recent years. Maybe not as popular of races and tours.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
2009 and 2010 saw Coumbian's taking 1st place in the baby Giro tour.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...sarmiento/2009
https://www.procyclingstats.com/ride...-betancur/2010
I guess I'm not sure what to say. They've been around for a long time. But just not in the one race we all seem to put emphasis on, the TdF.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nati...&filter=Filter
https://www.procyclingstats.com/nation/co
Yeah, I was thinking TDF. I am not a pro bike racing junkie. I suppose I am like a lot of people in that the Tour tends to get the majority of my attention. To be perfectly honest, I don't know a whole lot about it. My wife and I watched Stage 7. I was surprised to walk into the living room to find her watching it. We talked about all of the races within the race and all of the stories within the race, like how heart breaking it must be for someone like Pinot. I mentioned that the Colombians have been an increasingly dominant force over the past few years and wondered aloud how that has happened.
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To be certain, the Columbian's are on a roll. They've got some good talent making themselves known in the races most watched. I'd like to see what it's like when Nairo, Rigo, Bernal and so many others show up at a restaurant or bar in Columbia.
I'm not by any stretch of the imagination fluent in cycling sports. But it is the one that can hold my attention the most. Except for maybe the Americas Cup and some other sailing events.
I'm not by any stretch of the imagination fluent in cycling sports. But it is the one that can hold my attention the most. Except for maybe the Americas Cup and some other sailing events.
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Please, it is Colombia with two o's no u.
Colombians are crazy for cycling. Anyone who dares to ride a bike in Bogota must have a death wish. And it is full of cyclists. Medellin closes off some roads and people can just jog and cycle on them. Many live at altitude. Great building blocks. Now where did this come from? Is it really an explosion? Well in the 80s you had Colombian riders being very strong. They didn't win the Tour because back then you had crazy long ITTs where they lost far too much time. Bernal would never have won with a longer ITT or even 2, 3 in the Tour. Then you had the 90s and 00s and they lost all their natural advantage to the doping regiments, maybe also some poorer years in terms of talent. But now with the successes of Nairoman and Uran there's a lot of younger riders coming through again.
Colombians are crazy for cycling. Anyone who dares to ride a bike in Bogota must have a death wish. And it is full of cyclists. Medellin closes off some roads and people can just jog and cycle on them. Many live at altitude. Great building blocks. Now where did this come from? Is it really an explosion? Well in the 80s you had Colombian riders being very strong. They didn't win the Tour because back then you had crazy long ITTs where they lost far too much time. Bernal would never have won with a longer ITT or even 2, 3 in the Tour. Then you had the 90s and 00s and they lost all their natural advantage to the doping regiments, maybe also some poorer years in terms of talent. But now with the successes of Nairoman and Uran there's a lot of younger riders coming through again.
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Please, it is Colombia with two o's no u.
Colombians are crazy for cycling. Anyone who dares to ride a bike in Bogota must have a death wish. And it is full of cyclists. Medellin closes off some roads and people can just jog and cycle on them. Many live at altitude. Great building blocks. Now where did this come from? Is it really an explosion? Well in the 80s you had Colombian riders being very strong. They didn't win the Tour because back then you had crazy long ITTs where they lost far too much time. Bernal would never have won with a longer ITT or even 2, 3 in the Tour. Then you had the 90s and 00s and they lost all their natural advantage to the doping regiments, maybe also some poorer years in terms of talent. But now with the successes of Nairoman and Uran there's a lot of younger riders coming through again.
Colombians are crazy for cycling. Anyone who dares to ride a bike in Bogota must have a death wish. And it is full of cyclists. Medellin closes off some roads and people can just jog and cycle on them. Many live at altitude. Great building blocks. Now where did this come from? Is it really an explosion? Well in the 80s you had Colombian riders being very strong. They didn't win the Tour because back then you had crazy long ITTs where they lost far too much time. Bernal would never have won with a longer ITT or even 2, 3 in the Tour. Then you had the 90s and 00s and they lost all their natural advantage to the doping regiments, maybe also some poorer years in terms of talent. But now with the successes of Nairoman and Uran there's a lot of younger riders coming through again.
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Was there any kind of coaching, structural, organizational or cultural change that might explain some of their recent success? It seems that going from no riders in 2010 to their current dominating (strong if you don't like the word dominating) presence is more than just happenstance and time trial changes.
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I guess the question now is, will the Colombians riders who lost any hopes of the yellow today help their fellow countrymen who are still in contention to help break the Slovenians?
Can't recall a country rivalry like this in a long, long time, especially two smaller countries.
Can't recall a country rivalry like this in a long, long time, especially two smaller countries.
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I guess the question now is, will the Colombians riders who lost any hopes of the yellow today help their fellow countrymen who are still in contention to help break the Slovenians?
Can't recall a country rivalry like this in a long, long time, especially two smaller countries.
Can't recall a country rivalry like this in a long, long time, especially two smaller countries.
I like it. It makes it interesting. At this point, I don't know how the top two can be unseated. They have been so incredibly strong. Pogacar really impressed me on stage 8 and 9. He showed a certain toughness that I thought Bernal would show yesterday.
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Altitude plays an important role. When I was in Ecuador a couple of years ago, I wondered why there weren't more cyclists coming from there. Quito is at 10,000 feet, and it's in a deep VALLEY. The surrounding areas are easily 12,000 and more. Lo and behold, the next year Carapaz surfaced, and I hope we will see more Ecuadorians. They have incredible cardio just going about their lives, and with training.....
Colombia is not quite as high, but it has more cycling infrastructure, better roads, and more wealth.
Colombia is not quite as high, but it has more cycling infrastructure, better roads, and more wealth.
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Altitude plays an important role. When I was in Ecuador a couple of years ago, I wondered why there weren't more cyclists coming from there. Quito is at 10,000 feet, and it's in a deep VALLEY. The surrounding areas are easily 12,000 and more. Lo and behold, the next year Carapaz surfaced, and I hope we will see more Ecuadorians. They have incredible cardio just going about their lives, and with training.....
Colombia is not quite as high, but it has more cycling infrastructure, better roads, and more wealth.
Colombia is not quite as high, but it has more cycling infrastructure, better roads, and more wealth.
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Delete a thread or a post?
I don't think you can on a thread, except for a brief time after initial post the OP might be able to in the advanced edit.
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So please let the one you are asking for know.
I don't think you can on a thread, except for a brief time after initial post the OP might be able to in the advanced edit.
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Delete a thread or a post?
I don't think you can on a thread, except for a brief time after initial post the OP might be able to in the advanced edit.
For a post, it's an option in the advanced edit, but not for the thread starting post. I've always felt posts on this type of forum are like face to face conversation. Once you blurt it out it's there. Edits for clarity are okay, but if you said something stupid and are ashamed of it, it's too late. As busy as this forum is, someone already saw it. At most just use the strikethrough and add your new comment and views. IMO of course.
So please let the one you are asking for know.
I don't think you can on a thread, except for a brief time after initial post the OP might be able to in the advanced edit.
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Two in the top 10, 6th and 8th. But the slovenians were 1-2 and there are two Spaniards placing higher also.
Colombians are a VERY important part of the peloton, but this wasn't their year.
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let's see how they do in the giro and vuelta. more to life than the tdf. sure...lopez fell from 3rd to 6th...not exactly unexpected but he did nab the queen stage of the tdf.
not too shabby for a first tdf. that dani martinez guy won a mad bad mtn stage as well. they'll have a say in things the rest of the racing season.
not too shabby for a first tdf. that dani martinez guy won a mad bad mtn stage as well. they'll have a say in things the rest of the racing season.
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I think Paul Barnard simply meant that in the end, the colombians didn't dominate at all.
I think you are right.