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Actually anyone riding a bike is a real cyclist. But there are some that think ONLY they are real cyclist. Snobbery is alive and well.
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I have nothing against e-bike, they have their place. But going too fast on a MUP with children, dogs and pedestrians is not it. Same goes for pedal bike going too fast in the same situation.
They give all cyclists a bad name.
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The sad thing is the number of people on here who want to re-define cycling to include the riding of motorized vehicles such as e-bikes.
Riding e-bikes and the like, where permitted by law (a different set of questions), is a perfectly legitimate activity, though not one that interests me, but it is not cycling.
Simple, and nothing whatsoever to do with a fictive "snobbery" that exists in, and only in, your mind. I am a "real cyclist", though an old, slow, and Fredly one. Someone whose riding is done on an e-bike is not. That is not a normative judgement; it is a simple conclusion predicated on a commonly-accepted and rational definition of 'cycling'.
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Is there a difference between "riding" a bike and "driving" a bike?
I have nothing against e-bike, they have their place. But going too fast on a MUP with children, dogs and pedestrians is not it. Same goes for pedal bike going too fast in the same situation.
They give all cyclists a bad name.
I have nothing against e-bike, they have their place. But going too fast on a MUP with children, dogs and pedestrians is not it. Same goes for pedal bike going too fast in the same situation.
They give all cyclists a bad name.
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Should trikes (or for that matter, pedal-cars) be on bike paths?
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Really? Did those fast riding "real cyclists" stop after driving you off the bike path to claim to you that "they" were not responsible for your problem, were not staring at their front wheels and did not ride too fast for conditions?
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I have to add that there's only 2 MUP near me. One heads north and i avoid it on weekends and when I know it's crowded. There's plenty of roads that go to the same place.
The other goes to the beach and after the first mile or 2 there's very few pedestrians and other related obstacles.
The other goes to the beach and after the first mile or 2 there's very few pedestrians and other related obstacles.
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Nope none of the 3 stopped, they just pedaled on doing over 20mph! But then that is what I would have expected from that kind of cyclist.
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You called it a bike path. Nothing against trikes per se, though with "Multi-Use" there still should be qualifiers as to vehicles allowed of some sort, given that there's a fixed amount of available width, with perhaps no 'shoulder' to move over onto, etc. Once electric bikes are given the OK, progression then to electric trikes, then to electric golf carts, then to...
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You called it a bike path. Nothing against trikes per se, though with "Multi-Use" there still should be qualifiers as to vehicles allowed of some sort, given that there's a fixed amount of available width, with perhaps no 'shoulder' to move over onto, etc. Once electric bikes are given the OK, progression then to electric trikes, then to electric golf carts, then to...
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Ah but far too often the ones who get injured or killed are the innocents. in a car/bicycle collision the bicyclist will most likely be the loser. The same would hold true for an E-bike/bicycle collision especially if the E-bike is going fast. An E-bike has a lot more mass than the average bicycle.
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. Once electric bikes are given the OK, progression then to electric trikes, then to electric golf carts, then to...
Again, my issue isn't with the e-bikes, but with their encroachment onto previously totally human powered and already over-crowded territory.
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As long as they're totally human powered you can't really make a case against them. At least I wouldn't.
Now this on the other hand, is the natural progress that's undeniable. Especially since we've already seeing the bike get more powerful by the day. And half of them you those don't even need to be pedaled to move.
Again, my issue isn't with the e-bikes, but with their encroachment onto previously totally human powered and already over-crowded territory.
Now this on the other hand, is the natural progress that's undeniable. Especially since we've already seeing the bike get more powerful by the day. And half of them you those don't even need to be pedaled to move.
Again, my issue isn't with the e-bikes, but with their encroachment onto previously totally human powered and already over-crowded territory.
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We’ve reached full stupid.
I just got a Bikeforums advertisement show up here for a 1000w e-bike painted like a WW2 fighter jet.
ONE THOUSAND watts.
I just got a Bikeforums advertisement show up here for a 1000w e-bike painted like a WW2 fighter jet.
ONE THOUSAND watts.
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This Weekend's Great Pumpkin Ride...
had my wife and me meeting up with four other riders, of whom two were acquaintances and two were strangers. One stranger, the wife, was riding some form of e-bike. Well, her battery was giving her problems, and she was forced to bail out on the ride early on. It seems that lugging a 55 lb bike up the hills with the rest of us "conventional" riders was too much. I don't blame her. Her husband had to peel off immediately to keep her company, and they missed the ride completely. Oh well.
It seems that this is the greatest drawback to the concept of an e-bike. Electrical component/battery/motor failure that leaves you astride a boat anchor. No thanks.
It seems that this is the greatest drawback to the concept of an e-bike. Electrical component/battery/motor failure that leaves you astride a boat anchor. No thanks.
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It is my hope that the high cost and dependability problems will damp down the current ebike fad and they will just go away. Becoming another relic of cycling’s many fads from over the years. When Costco is selling ebikes in that featured area near the entrance, their days are numbered.