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01-09-20, 12:57 AM
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Shields
I'm looking for a good quality older steel bike for commuting and came across an ad for a "Vintage Shields Road Bike" for $400 CAD. Any thoughts on this brand?
01-09-20, 05:41 AM
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Vintage Shields Road Bike could mean almost anything. Googling Vintage Shields Road Bike produces a few pics of various types of bikes. I confess I've never seen any discussion of Shields here, don't know what it is. Road Bike could mean a true lightweight racer impractical for some commuting, or any utilitarian bike with narrow tires, or any bike with drop bars. $400 sounds like a lot of money for a bike with no pedigree per se. Which is to say it may be a great bike or a bad over-priced one. The details of the specific bike are more important than the brand and type description.
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01-09-20, 06:34 AM
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Larry Shields, racer of yore. Did he make bikes?
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A lot of bike companies made frames/builds of varying levels, and value has a lot to do with what parts are on it, as well as condition. The above post links to bikes that clearly demonstrate this, and none of which are worth much in my market. Those are $100 bikes, USD. I'd need a lot more info to respond with anything remotely helpful,
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@Lunar - what city are you near? Its winter in Canada and traditionally prices are lower now so a $400 price now is probably down 25-40% and maybe more so. At $400 you should be getting a hell of a nice bike, even in TO!
01-09-20, 08:27 AM
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Shields was a Canadian bicycle distributor established by Harry D. Shields and later taken over by his son Lorne. During the early 1970s bicycle boom they were the major Canadian distributor of high grade bicycle parts (Campagnolo, Huret, MAFAC, Shimano, Simplex, SunTour, Stronglight, TA, etc), as well as distributing bicycle brands such as Cinelli, Falcon, Jeunet and Peugeot. In the late 1970s they became the Canadian distributor for Nishiki, which were labelled Shields Nishiki, as well as establishing their own brand. Bicycles marketed under the Shields brands included children's, BMX, roadsters, English style 3 speeds and 10 peed lightweights. However, I've never seen one that I'd classify above lower mid-range. Consequently, pending pictures, $400 CDN sound far too high.
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OP you might want to list where in Canada you are - there is a probably a BF C&V member there who might be able to give you a good sense of the market. IMHO $400 for a used steel road bike seems way high. With any used bike you should probably expect some cost for replacing tires, brake pads, cables, chain, bar wrap etc unless the seller specifically says they are new but in a major metro area like Seattle there are plenty of commuter worthy bikes for half what your seller is asking and less if you have the skills do your own maintenance. Good luck in the search
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Whether it is worth $400 is another matter, but that is a rather nice bike. I like it.
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That sure looks like a Nishiki Kokusai/International, but with chrome stays. I am not a fan of Sugino Maxy cranks, but the rest looks decent enough. $400 seems high.
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I was just looking at a Miyata that size (rough guess as looking at photos) for about $150 and a lot more functional a rider.
Bike you posted is a $200 - maybe - outside a major Canadian city.....
Bike you posted is a $200 - maybe - outside a major Canadian city.....
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More detailed photos needed - Lorne verified mine was sourced in Asia (NOT Nishiki) and assembled in Toronto. Similar to the OP’s bike in many ways...
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Made for long days in the saddle with those long chainstays and slack seat tube.
Double eyelets on stamped dropouts, beefy seatstays need a classy rack, maybe repaint fenders.
The black/white checkerboard makes me wish it was a French frame, but fork bend says otherwise.
Double eyelets on stamped dropouts, beefy seatstays need a classy rack, maybe repaint fenders.
The black/white checkerboard makes me wish it was a French frame, but fork bend says otherwise.
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Thank you!
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OP you might want to list where in Canada you are - there is a probably a BF C&V member there who might be able to give you a good sense of the market. IMHO $400 for a used steel road bike seems way high. With any used bike you should probably expect some cost for replacing tires, brake pads, cables, chain, bar wrap etc unless the seller specifically says they are new but in a major metro area like Seattle there are plenty of commuter worthy bikes for half what your seller is asking and less if you have the skills do your own maintenance. Good luck in the search
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Thank you T-Mar for sharing your knowledge. Believe it or not I actually joined bike forums to ask you about this bike, however, I soon discovered I wasn’t able to send messages as a new member. Guess it worked out after all!
Shields was a Canadian bicycle distributor established by Harry D. Shields and later taken over by his son Lorne. During the early 1970s bicycle boom they were the major Canadian distributor of high grade bicycle parts (Campagnolo, Huret, MAFAC, Shimano, Simplex, SunTour, Stronglight, TA, etc), as well as distributing bicycle brands such as Cinelli, Falcon, Jeunet and Peugeot. In the late 1970s they became the Canadian distributor for Nishiki, which were labelled Shields Nishiki, as well as establishing their own brand. Bicycles marketed under the Shields brands included children's, BMX, roadsters, English style 3 speeds and 10 peed lightweights. However, I've never seen one that I'd classify above lower mid-range. Consequently, pending pictures, $400 CDN sound far too high.
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Thank you everyone for taking the time to give me feedback. It sounds like I should let this one go and keep looking
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[QUOTE=norcalmike;21276599]Here's something from 2006
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[QUOTE=norcalmike;21276599]Here's something from 2006
A lot of bike companies made frames/builds of varying levels, and value has a lot to do with what parts are on it, as well as condition. The above post links to bikes that clearly demonstrate this, and none of which are worth much in my market. Those are $100 bikes, USD. I'd need a lot more info to respond with anything remotely helpful,
Made for long days in the saddle with those long chainstays and slack seat tube.
Double eyelets on stamped dropouts, beefy seatstays need a classy rack, maybe repaint fenders.
The black/white checkerboard makes me wish it was a French frame, but fork bend says otherwise.
Double eyelets on stamped dropouts, beefy seatstays need a classy rack, maybe repaint fenders.
The black/white checkerboard makes me wish it was a French frame, but fork bend says otherwise.
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One thing to consider is a old school mountain bike - Steel, no suspension, rigid fork- if you swap it over to city tires like say the Schwable Jet City then they make an excellent commuter, and classic MTBs can often be found for less than classic road bikes. Lots of good info out there on bike maintenance including here if you want to tackle the maintenance yourself. Good luck in your search
An example
early 90s Specialized rock hopper with city tires lots of room for the fenders and braze ons for racks
An example
early 90s Specialized rock hopper with city tires lots of room for the fenders and braze ons for racks
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I believe that I have found the subject bicycle. The registration decals suggest a 1977 model but I believe it may be one year earlier, based on the Shields decals. Regardless, the combination of a SunTour VT derailleur and the earlier version of the Compe-V front derailleur places it 1974-1977. The swaged Sugino Maxy crankset is also typical of the era. While it has aluminum rims, the frame itself appears to be hi-tensile steel and manufactured by Kawamura, who were building the Shields Nishiki at the time. Given the era, my overall impression is a model at the transition between entry level and mid-range.
Overall condition is very good for the age. It looks like it has had the consumables (tyres, cables, brake pads, chain, handlebar tape) recently replaced. Also, Vancouver is in the top 3 Canadian bicycle markets and their winter prices are not affected as much due to the more temperate climate. Still, I'm not seeing anything close to a $400 CDN bicycle.
Overall condition is very good for the age. It looks like it has had the consumables (tyres, cables, brake pads, chain, handlebar tape) recently replaced. Also, Vancouver is in the top 3 Canadian bicycle markets and their winter prices are not affected as much due to the more temperate climate. Still, I'm not seeing anything close to a $400 CDN bicycle.
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If you were in ontario I could point you towards something a little better priced. Unfortunately I don't know the BC market.
Have you tried Facebook Marketplace, Offerup, Letgo, Pinkbike, etc? Expand the search area and see if you can get something better with a short drive. Even over the border, duty is not that much - just get a receipt!
Have you tried Facebook Marketplace, Offerup, Letgo, Pinkbike, etc? Expand the search area and see if you can get something better with a short drive. Even over the border, duty is not that much - just get a receipt!
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I don't know what size bike you'd need but there are BC bikes for a lot less on Pinkbike.com. (I know you want a commuter bike but these are just examples of what is there).
This a "Large" frame - probably closer to 63cm for $200 (or best offer) less Brooks seat.
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2597280/
This a 58cm frame for $300 (or best offer).
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2400355/
If you have a ride and can cross border......
This is a small Schwinn with mudguards and a rear rack for $45US in Mt Vernon WA. (needs a wheel but still cheap and no one will steal it).
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...6143557205387/
There is a small trek for $100US in Bellingham WA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...3279283763204/
This a "Large" frame - probably closer to 63cm for $200 (or best offer) less Brooks seat.
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2597280/
This a 58cm frame for $300 (or best offer).
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2400355/
If you have a ride and can cross border......
This is a small Schwinn with mudguards and a rear rack for $45US in Mt Vernon WA. (needs a wheel but still cheap and no one will steal it).
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...6143557205387/
There is a small trek for $100US in Bellingham WA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...3279283763204/