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Old 04-06-20, 06:55 PM
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Help me make this wheel useful

I ended up buying this wheelset, not exactly knowing what I was purchasing (neither did the seller).

1) I would like to convert this axle to QR or at least be able to use axle nuts. As pictured, I can not fit a freewheel over these lock nuts, which is my intention. I would like to use the Surly bearings, cups, etc, but this use maybe this axle and lock nuts only.
2). Do you have to have a specific tool to remove this single cog or will a chain whip work?

I know I could have posted this in single/ fixie forum, but I want to use this wheel/hub on a 12-speed bike.



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There are reasons why multi speed freewheel hubs are what they are and why single speed/fixie hubs are the way they are.

The lock nuts don't look big enough in diameter to hinder a freewheel's mounting. Please tell me what I am missing in your question. Do you know what type of bearing these hubs have? Some I've seen are cartridge units which wouldn't be compatible with a cup and cone axle (unless it's one of the very less common designs with a threaded sleeve run onto a conventional axle). If the goal is to have a longer axle to fit in a wider rear frame spread and to give clearance between the freewheel small cog and the frame then you need to ascertain the current axle design and specs first. Do this by removing the axle and measuring.

The cog has a reverse threaded lock ring which wants a lock ring tool with one hook and a slightly smaller curvature (or use a piece of something between the lock ring tool's curved portion and the lock ring). Then a common chain whip on the cog. It seems that you are new to track stuff...

While I have seen riders use a multi speed freewheel on a track hub before (with the proper respacing for mentioned cog/chain/stay clearance) I feel this is a case of questionable value. Likely the wheel will need redishing, spoke lengths might become an issue. With the few threads the freewheel will engage the hub with and that the small cog will be so far from those few threads don't be surprised if hub thread damage happens when the freewheel cocks on the hub shell during hard use.

Out of curiosity why not just get a proper road bike wheel? Andy
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
There are reasons why multi speed freewheel hubs are what they are and why single speed/fixie hubs are the way they are.

The lock nuts don't look big enough in diameter to hinder a freewheel's mounting. Please tell me what I am missing in your question. Do you know what type of bearing these hubs have? Some I've seen are cartridge units which wouldn't be compatible with a cup and cone axle (unless it's one of the very less common designs with a threaded sleeve run onto a conventional axle). If the goal is to have a longer axle to fit in a wider rear frame spread and to give clearance between the freewheel small cog and the frame then you need to ascertain the current axle design and specs first. Do this by removing the axle and measuring.

The cog has a reverse threaded lock ring which wants a lock ring tool with one hook and a slightly smaller curvature (or use a piece of something between the lock ring tool's curved portion and the lock ring). Then a common chain whip on the cog. It seems that you are new to track stuff...

While I have seen riders use a multi speed freewheel on a track hub before (with the proper respacing for mentioned cog/chain/stay clearance) I feel this is a case of questionable value. Likely the wheel will need redishing, spoke lengths might become an issue. With the few threads the freewheel will engage the hub with and that the small cog will be so far from those few threads don't be surprised if hub thread damage happens when the freewheel cocks on the hub shell during hard use.

Out of curiosity why not just get a proper road bike wheel? Andy
Maybe keep this wheel as fixed, get a road wheelset, then build yourself a nice fixed gear as a n+1 . That cog looks to be in pretty nice shape, b and the Dura Ace lockring is nice too. There are threads on the other side of the hub too. Hard to tell from the picture, but this is either a fixed-fixed wheel (you can run a fixed gear cog ok both sides) or fixed-free. If the bearings are in good shape, it's worth a consideration. Fixed is a lot of fun.

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