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12-02-19, 10:24 AM
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12-02-19, 10:25 AM
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12-02-19, 10:56 AM
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12-02-19, 11:34 AM
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12-02-19, 11:52 AM
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12-02-19, 11:55 AM
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12-02-19, 11:59 AM
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12-02-19, 01:28 PM
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Thank gooodness, no. On the descents into London and JFK, I was keeping my fingers crossed. That was painful. I don't want one ever again. I don't know how the pain of this relates to the pain of a migraine, but in any case it was really bad for a few minutes. So grateful it did not happen again.
At the time I thought maybe something was wrong with the cabin pressurization. Then later I realized I was starting to come down with a sinus infection and didn't know it yet.
I've never had that happen again but Every. Single. Time. I fly I am now paranoid that it will happen again.
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15 years ago I was coming home from Iraq for my 2 weeks R&R and on the descents (there were a couple because it takes a lot of fuel to get from Kuwait to the US) I had horrible pain in my skull like my brain was being squeezed in a vice. It was brutal, because it lasted the entirety of the 30-45 minute descent and I just had to sit there with my eyes watering and couldn't do anything about it.
At the time I thought maybe something was wrong with the cabin pressurization. Then later I realized I was starting to come down with a sinus infection and didn't know it yet.
I've never had that happen again but Every. Single. Time. I fly I am now paranoid that it will happen again.
At the time I thought maybe something was wrong with the cabin pressurization. Then later I realized I was starting to come down with a sinus infection and didn't know it yet.
I've never had that happen again but Every. Single. Time. I fly I am now paranoid that it will happen again.
12-02-19, 02:46 PM
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Me neither. Looks like work to me.
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12-02-19, 02:55 PM
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Thank gooodness, no. On the descents into London and JFK, I was keeping my fingers crossed. That was painful. I don't want one ever again. I don't know how the pain of this relates to the pain of a migraine, but in any case it was really bad for a few minutes. So grateful it did not happen again.
15 years ago I was coming home from Iraq for my 2 weeks R&R and on the descents (there were a couple because it takes a lot of fuel to get from Kuwait to the US) I had horrible pain in my skull like my brain was being squeezed in a vice. It was brutal, because it lasted the entirety of the 30-45 minute descent and I just had to sit there with my eyes watering and couldn't do anything about it.
At the time I thought maybe something was wrong with the cabin pressurization. Then later I realized I was starting to come down with a sinus infection and didn't know it yet.
I've never had that happen again but Every. Single. Time. I fly I am now paranoid that it will happen again.
At the time I thought maybe something was wrong with the cabin pressurization. Then later I realized I was starting to come down with a sinus infection and didn't know it yet.
I've never had that happen again but Every. Single. Time. I fly I am now paranoid that it will happen again.
FYI, my father who was a career USAF pilot swears by afrin. If you have recurring issues with flying, try to pre-dose before take-off and really load up prior to the descent. For most airliners cabin pressure is between 6000-8000 feet, so if you give yourself a dose when the announcement that the pilots are starting their descent you should have enough time from cruising altitude until you reach 8000 feet and the pressure starts to increase along with ambient pressure outside for the medicine to do its job. Also, chew gum, drink water, etc. Try to keep your Eustachian tubes open and free.
12-02-19, 03:13 PM
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My wife had one unexpectedly while flying in a GA airplane over Thanksgiving, never had trouble before. The pain was apparently incapacitating. Unfortunately she was in the back seat alone and my father and I did not notice that she was in pain until we were on the ground, which was unfortunate since if we had known we would have halted the descent and let the pressure in her ears reach equilibrium with the outside.
FYI, my father who was a career USAF pilot swears by afrin. If you have recurring issues with flying, try to pre-dose before take-off and really load up prior to the descent. For most airliners cabin pressure is between 6000-8000 feet, so if you give yourself a dose when the announcement that the pilots are starting their descent you should have enough time from cruising altitude until you reach 8000 feet and the pressure starts to increase along with ambient pressure outside for the medicine to do its job. Also, chew gum, drink water, etc. Try to keep your Eustachian tubes open and free.
FYI, my father who was a career USAF pilot swears by afrin. If you have recurring issues with flying, try to pre-dose before take-off and really load up prior to the descent. For most airliners cabin pressure is between 6000-8000 feet, so if you give yourself a dose when the announcement that the pilots are starting their descent you should have enough time from cruising altitude until you reach 8000 feet and the pressure starts to increase along with ambient pressure outside for the medicine to do its job. Also, chew gum, drink water, etc. Try to keep your Eustachian tubes open and free.
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12-02-19, 03:41 PM
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I have to admit I rarely have problems flying since I started scuba diving in the 90s, since valsalva works in most cases for me, but it's an acquired skill that requires practice. If I have a cold it doesn't work without decongestants.
12-02-19, 03:52 PM
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12-02-19, 03:55 PM
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12-02-19, 03:59 PM
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Exhaling against a blocked nose (which is not the same as the Valsalva maneuver) only works to equalize the ears. Sinus squeezes are a different matter.
12-02-19, 04:04 PM
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Jack passed during the night. Given his behavior yesterday afternoon/evening, I kind of expected it - he'd snuggle a little bit, but then he'd keep crawling off to a quiet corner behind some furniture. When the boy was getting ready to turn in for the night, I told him to show Jack some love and to say his goodbyes. I'm glad I did - when the morning rolled around, I think that the boy took the news much better than he would have, otherwise. Man, from four animals to one, in the span of a little more than two years. 
I have a feeling that the boy is going to ask for a kitten for Christmas.
I have a feeling that the boy is going to ask for a kitten for Christmas.
12-02-19, 04:56 PM
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12-02-19, 05:17 PM
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12-02-19, 05:36 PM
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What's this thread about?
12-02-19, 05:43 PM
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12-02-19, 06:16 PM
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12-02-19, 07:15 PM
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The Valsalva maneuver is when you attempt to exhale against a closed glottis, the way you do to raise intra-abdominal pressure when taking a difficult crap. It also raises pressure in the chest, causing differential pressure changes in the two sides of the heart and a bunch of other interesting events. It's related to that thing you do with the nose to equalize the ears, but the two shouldn't be confused. "Squeeze" is a diving term referring to that painful thing we were talking about, where pressure cannot equalize in a bony cavity of the head.
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