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With all of the n00b intervals.icu training talk, it's probably worthwhile to have a little primer on Load, which is the building block of much of what we're talking about.
Load for a given workout is intensity (how hard you worked) x time (how long you worked out, in hours) x 100 (because decimal points suck and bigger numbers are betterer numbers)
Intensity is how hard you workout as a percentage of how hard you can work out. So if my FTP is 250w and I have an average of 200w for a workout, my intensity is 80% or 0.80. If my workout was one hour long, the load would be 80 (.8 x 1 hour x 100). If my workout was 90 minutes, the load would be 120 (.8 x 1.5 hours x 100).
All of the Fitness, Fatigue, Form, etc is based off of Load.
Fitness is based off of a weighted average daily load over ~6 weeks. If your current Fitness is 50 and you want it to go up, you need to up your average daily load, so doing 45 mins at 85% four days a week isn't going to do it (that would roughly be an average daily load of 36)
Fatigue is similar, but it's a weighted 7 day average (basically, fitness builds/decays more slowly, whereas fatigue builds/recovers more quickly).
Form is a comparison of your Fitness and Fatigue. It's a good shorthand way of telling if you're overtraining, undertraining, etc. You're undertraining if your Fatigue is a lot lower than your Fitness. You might be in danger of overtraining if your Fatigue is too much higher than your Fitness. It might be a good idea to taper to someplace in between if you have an event coming up, etc.
Hope this helps.
Load for a given workout is intensity (how hard you worked) x time (how long you worked out, in hours) x 100 (because decimal points suck and bigger numbers are betterer numbers)
Intensity is how hard you workout as a percentage of how hard you can work out. So if my FTP is 250w and I have an average of 200w for a workout, my intensity is 80% or 0.80. If my workout was one hour long, the load would be 80 (.8 x 1 hour x 100). If my workout was 90 minutes, the load would be 120 (.8 x 1.5 hours x 100).
All of the Fitness, Fatigue, Form, etc is based off of Load.
Fitness is based off of a weighted average daily load over ~6 weeks. If your current Fitness is 50 and you want it to go up, you need to up your average daily load, so doing 45 mins at 85% four days a week isn't going to do it (that would roughly be an average daily load of 36)
Fatigue is similar, but it's a weighted 7 day average (basically, fitness builds/decays more slowly, whereas fatigue builds/recovers more quickly).
Form is a comparison of your Fitness and Fatigue. It's a good shorthand way of telling if you're overtraining, undertraining, etc. You're undertraining if your Fatigue is a lot lower than your Fitness. You might be in danger of overtraining if your Fatigue is too much higher than your Fitness. It might be a good idea to taper to someplace in between if you have an event coming up, etc.
Hope this helps.
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With all of the n00b intervals.icu training talk, it's probably worthwhile to have a little primer on Load, which is the building block of much of what we're talking about.
Load for a given workout is intensity (how hard you worked) x time (how long you worked out, in hours) x 100 (because decimal points suck and bigger numbers are betterer numbers)
Intensity is how hard you workout as a percentage of how hard you can work out. So if my FTP is 250w and I have an average of 200w for a workout, my intensity is 80% or 0.80. If my workout was one hour long, the load would be 80 (.8 x 1 hour x 100). If my workout was 90 minutes, the load would be 120 (.8 x 1.5 hours x 100).
All of the Fitness, Fatigue, Form, etc is based off of Load.
Fitness is based off of a weighted average daily load over ~6 weeks. If your current Fitness is 50 and you want it to go up, you need to up your average daily load, so doing 45 mins at 85% four days a week isn't going to do it (that would roughly be an average daily load of 36)
Fatigue is similar, but it's a weighted 7 day average (basically, fitness builds/decays more slowly, whereas fatigue builds/recovers more quickly).
Form is a comparison of your Fitness and Fatigue. It's a good shorthand way of telling if you're overtraining, undertraining, etc. You're undertraining if your Fatigue is a lot lower than your Fitness. You might be in danger of overtraining if your Fatigue is too much higher than your Fitness. It might be a good idea to taper to someplace in between if you have an event coming up, etc.
Hope this helps.
Load for a given workout is intensity (how hard you worked) x time (how long you worked out, in hours) x 100 (because decimal points suck and bigger numbers are betterer numbers)
Intensity is how hard you workout as a percentage of how hard you can work out. So if my FTP is 250w and I have an average of 200w for a workout, my intensity is 80% or 0.80. If my workout was one hour long, the load would be 80 (.8 x 1 hour x 100). If my workout was 90 minutes, the load would be 120 (.8 x 1.5 hours x 100).
All of the Fitness, Fatigue, Form, etc is based off of Load.
Fitness is based off of a weighted average daily load over ~6 weeks. If your current Fitness is 50 and you want it to go up, you need to up your average daily load, so doing 45 mins at 85% four days a week isn't going to do it (that would roughly be an average daily load of 36)
Fatigue is similar, but it's a weighted 7 day average (basically, fitness builds/decays more slowly, whereas fatigue builds/recovers more quickly).
Form is a comparison of your Fitness and Fatigue. It's a good shorthand way of telling if you're overtraining, undertraining, etc. You're undertraining if your Fatigue is a lot lower than your Fitness. You might be in danger of overtraining if your Fatigue is too much higher than your Fitness. It might be a good idea to taper to someplace in between if you have an event coming up, etc.
Hope this helps.
Thank you.
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With all of the n00b intervals.icu training talk, it's probably worthwhile to have a little primer on Load, which is the building block of much of what we're talking about.
Load for a given workout is intensity (how hard you worked) x time (how long you worked out, in hours) x 100 (because decimal points suck and bigger numbers are betterer numbers)
Intensity is how hard you workout as a percentage of how hard you can work out. So if my FTP is 250w and I have an average of 200w for a workout, my intensity is 80% or 0.80. If my workout was one hour long, the load would be 80 (.8 x 1 hour x 100). If my workout was 90 minutes, the load would be 120 (.8 x 1.5 hours x 100).
All of the Fitness, Fatigue, Form, etc is based off of Load.
Fitness is based off of a weighted average daily load over ~6 weeks. If your current Fitness is 50 and you want it to go up, you need to up your average daily load, so doing 45 mins at 85% four days a week isn't going to do it (that would roughly be an average daily load of 36)
Fatigue is similar, but it's a weighted 7 day average (basically, fitness builds/decays more slowly, whereas fatigue builds/recovers more quickly).
Form is a comparison of your Fitness and Fatigue. It's a good shorthand way of telling if you're overtraining, undertraining, etc. You're undertraining if your Fatigue is a lot lower than your Fitness. You might be in danger of overtraining if your Fatigue is too much higher than your Fitness. It might be a good idea to taper to someplace in between if you have an event coming up, etc.
Hope this helps.
Load for a given workout is intensity (how hard you worked) x time (how long you worked out, in hours) x 100 (because decimal points suck and bigger numbers are betterer numbers)
Intensity is how hard you workout as a percentage of how hard you can work out. So if my FTP is 250w and I have an average of 200w for a workout, my intensity is 80% or 0.80. If my workout was one hour long, the load would be 80 (.8 x 1 hour x 100). If my workout was 90 minutes, the load would be 120 (.8 x 1.5 hours x 100).
All of the Fitness, Fatigue, Form, etc is based off of Load.
Fitness is based off of a weighted average daily load over ~6 weeks. If your current Fitness is 50 and you want it to go up, you need to up your average daily load, so doing 45 mins at 85% four days a week isn't going to do it (that would roughly be an average daily load of 36)
Fatigue is similar, but it's a weighted 7 day average (basically, fitness builds/decays more slowly, whereas fatigue builds/recovers more quickly).
Form is a comparison of your Fitness and Fatigue. It's a good shorthand way of telling if you're overtraining, undertraining, etc. You're undertraining if your Fatigue is a lot lower than your Fitness. You might be in danger of overtraining if your Fatigue is too much higher than your Fitness. It might be a good idea to taper to someplace in between if you have an event coming up, etc.
Hope this helps.
Kidding. I’ve been pretty consistent with 3x 1 hour, 1x1.5 and 1x2 over the past few weeks, I guess it’s climbing fine, but even with more time, my weekly load is lower than during the summer. It’s probably beneficial to have more structure, just frustrating at the surface.
I probably just need to HTFU and up the intensity
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you lost me at n00b...
Kidding. I’ve been pretty consistent with 3x 1 hour, 1x1.5 and 1x2 over the past few weeks, I guess it’s climbing fine, but even with more time, my weekly load is lower than during the summer. It’s probably beneficial to have more structure, just frustrating at the surface.
I probably just need to HTFU and up the intensity
Kidding. I’ve been pretty consistent with 3x 1 hour, 1x1.5 and 1x2 over the past few weeks, I guess it’s climbing fine, but even with more time, my weekly load is lower than during the summer. It’s probably beneficial to have more structure, just frustrating at the surface.
I probably just need to HTFU and up the intensity
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you lost me at n00b...
Kidding. I’ve been pretty consistent with 3x 1 hour, 1x1.5 and 1x2 over the past few weeks, I guess it’s climbing fine, but even with more time, my weekly load is lower than during the summer. It’s probably beneficial to have more structure, just frustrating at the surface.
I probably just need to HTFU and up the intensity
Kidding. I’ve been pretty consistent with 3x 1 hour, 1x1.5 and 1x2 over the past few weeks, I guess it’s climbing fine, but even with more time, my weekly load is lower than during the summer. It’s probably beneficial to have more structure, just frustrating at the surface.
I probably just need to HTFU and up the intensity
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Would picking the time help? Typical wisdom points to an after work bike session, but I have found that I like to spend time at night with Mrs. LAJ. So, I'm willing to get up at an ungodly hour to get that done. Of course, with weights and the bike on schedule at this time, I just get to get up at an ungodly hour to lift weights.
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Would picking the time help? Typical wisdom points to an after work bike session, but I have found that I like to spend time at night with Mrs. LAJ. So, I'm willing to get up at an ungodly hour to get that done. Of course, with weights and the bike on schedule at this time, I just get to get up at an ungodly hour to lift weights.
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There have actually been two times when I’ve owned two boats. But, both were overlaps in changing boats. I’m not into fleet building.
I actually made money on one. 19 years ago, I bought a 26’ POS, cleaned it up a bunch and did some refurbishing. About 8 months later, I bought a 28’er. Then sold the 26’er about two months later - cash deal with cash counted out on the hood of my car. Made about 15% based on total dollars spent on it (had some sweat equity in it though).
I actually made money on one. 19 years ago, I bought a 26’ POS, cleaned it up a bunch and did some refurbishing. About 8 months later, I bought a 28’er. Then sold the 26’er about two months later - cash deal with cash counted out on the hood of my car. Made about 15% based on total dollars spent on it (had some sweat equity in it though).
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I struggle with getting beyond 3 days a week - 2 x 1-1.5 hour Zwift sessions and a 3 1/2 - 4 hour ride on Sundays. Trying to add another day keeps running aground on events and such. But at least I'm still doing the 3 days! And while I haven't LOST any weight since November, I also haven't GAINED any weight. I give myself kudos for surviving the Food Holidays without going back up over 210.
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During the outdoor riding season, I generally make up a spreadsheet of sunset times, with back-calculations of when I need to stop work in order to change and get to where I ride, in order to get in 1 1/2 hours before it's too dark. That works pretty well for me, even during COVID. But this is the first winter that I've actually kept riding. Previous years, I road the dumb trainer with nothing but music and could barely make 40 minutes, and kept finding reasons not to. You know, like "Gosh I should really finish this email before I go ride....Oops! Now it's too late!" This year, I actually look forward to Zwift sessions but I find that too many little things around the house - which I won't go into - need my attention. But I'm working on it. This week, I was going to do the TdZ on Wednesday but then there was an unsuccessful coup d'etat. Hopefully next week will be calmer.
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My waist continues to get smaller, but my weight has stopped going down. I don’t see a difference in my midsection but my face has gotten super skinny, and my legs have gotten a lot more muscular.
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Last winter, I was 2 holes bigger on my belt, and straining that a bit, honestly. Now I'm on the last hole and I could manage another one. So that's pretty good. My face is skinnier and my chin is now singular instead of plural. I could stand to lose another 10-15 lbs, but that's for next summer. If I start off at 205 instead of 235, it's a LOT easier to get below 200! Plus I'll worry a lot less about the bikes that nominally should only carry 100 kg....
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I noticed that your face was lookin' thinner on Strava. And yeah, weight doesn't necessarily tell you enough if you don't know about the composition - losing fat while gaining muscle isn't a bad thing.
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A plastic bike wouldn’t have been able to support me or my three chins. My drivers license has my old picture, and I have to use that sometimes with tsa. I get all kinds of responses, but usually tell them that I was trying to be a mob hit man for halloween.
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