Lightweight Steel Frames?
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Crust recently released the canti Lightning Bolt:- https://crustbikes.com/products/lightning-bolt-5/ which has a weight limit.
Designed around a 650b x 48; which is about 700x32.
Designed around a 650b x 48; which is about 700x32.
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Looking forward to the BQ review on that Crust.
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Interesting info - I recently built up a Black Mountain Road+. Pretty happy with it so far, but the fork was 2.8 pounds uncut. Those carbon forks seem like they could be an interesting option somewhere down the line. Do you feel either is a good fit for the Road+? I assume since you said you own a MCD you were referencing forks for the MCD.
As for the Carbon fork swap on yours, the biggest issue would be a difference in trail.
Your fork has 60mm of offset and the Whiskey fork that would work on your frame has 45mm of offset.
https://whiskyparts.co/forks/no.9-cx-disc-12-straight
So with 650b 47mm tires, the bike has 48mm of trail in it's current setup.
If you swap to the Carbon fork, it would jump to 64mm of trail, assuming the same wheels and tires.
That's a big difference in steering response. Itll slow the steering down.
everyone has different preferences. Some are good with 64mm and some want faster feeling steering / less input needed to turn.
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Crust recently released the canti Lightning Bolt:- https://crustbikes.com/products/lightning-bolt-5/ which has a weight limit.
Designed around a 650b x 48; which is about 700x32.
Designed around a 650b x 48; which is about 700x32.
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Crust recently released the canti Lightning Bolt:- https://crustbikes.com/products/lightning-bolt-5/ which has a weight limit.
Designed around a 650b x 48; which is about 700x32.
Designed around a 650b x 48; which is about 700x32.
Seems about $300-500 higher than similar comparables.
if its BQ tubing, or tubing comparable to BQ's, it's 7/4/7 heat treated tubing. So what, like $60 more than 7/5/7 columbus tubing and $100 more than 8/5/8 tubing?
Interesting offering.
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More choices here...
https://gunnarbikes.com
https://www.reillycycleworks.com/collections/frames >>> titanium frames
https://gunnarbikes.com
https://www.reillycycleworks.com/collections/frames >>> titanium frames
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Always liked the look of the Condor lineup..eg
stainless
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...nless-frameset
or not
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...ciaio-frameset
stainless
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...nless-frameset
or not
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...ciaio-frameset
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Get a ti frame, have it painted, slap a Columbus sticker on it and tell everyone it's steel...
Wanting a light steel bike is like wanting the "dancer" you marry after knowing her for 3 weeks to be faithful, nothing but $$$ and disappointment...
Wanting a light steel bike is like wanting the "dancer" you marry after knowing her for 3 weeks to be faithful, nothing but $$$ and disappointment...
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I don't agree, necessarily ... but that was funny enough that I had to respond somehow.
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Always liked the look of the Condor lineup..eg
stainless
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...nless-frameset
or not
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...ciaio-frameset
stainless
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...nless-frameset
or not
https://www.condorcycles.com/collect...ciaio-frameset
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My Waterford RS33 was custom built in 2008 with air hardened True Temper S3 lightweight steel and front carbon fork. Still rides like a dream and handles like a race car.
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I guess that depends on what you consider "light" to be and how light you need a bike to be. My Guru Sidero (which I have posted here) weighs approx. 17 lb 10 oz w/Ksyrium Elite USTs and SRAM Red. That works for me.
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https://wabicycles.com/pages/tubing-info
"Columbus Spirit Niobium: similar in weight to the 953, the Spirit is one of the lightest steel tubes sets available"
"Columbus Spirit Niobium: similar in weight to the 953, the Spirit is one of the lightest steel tubes sets available"
Those stainless alloys are actually stronger than you really need and they can't make them as thin as their strength would theoretically justify for practical reasons. So they're pretty cool but you will be saving as much weight by not painting them as the thinner gauges available are giving you.
Anything from Reynolds or Columbus is a quality tube and will make a great bike, as will double-butted standard 4130 or 25CrMo4 (which is exactly what Cromor, Zona and 525 are).
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You can have a nice and affordable frame at Marinoni with the option of custom gιomιtrie and custom paint. I have the Piuma but i change the standard headtube for the 44mm. Here the link of my bike (approximately 18 lbs) on PedalRoom : Marinoni Piuma
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You can have a nice and affordable frame at Marinoni with the option of custom gιomιtrie and custom paint. I have the Piuma but i change the standard headtube for the 44mm. Here the link of my bike (approximately 18 lbs) on PedalRoom : Marinoni Piuma
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I may opt for a Soma ES frame and add a carbon fork to it... mstateglfr
There seem to be some decent deals on them now and they weight about 4ish pounds. Only thing is that I would need long reach brake calipers.
Appreciate everyone's input.
There seem to be some decent deals on them now and they weight about 4ish pounds. Only thing is that I would need long reach brake calipers.
Appreciate everyone's input.
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I may opt for a Soma ES frame and add a carbon fork to it... mstateglfr
There seem to be some decent deals on them now and they weight about 4ish pounds. Only thing is that I would need long reach brake calipers.
Appreciate everyone's input.
There seem to be some decent deals on them now and they weight about 4ish pounds. Only thing is that I would need long reach brake calipers.
Appreciate everyone's input.
The TRP 957s are relatively light, well finished, have a lot or adjustment built in. Note that the cutout on the top of the arm in the linked picture doesnt seem to exist on ones that are for sale. Its all over the internet for some reason.
Below is a pic of a front caliper mounted.
https://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-b...B&gclsrc=aw.ds
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The Jamis Quest. Your choice of 4130, Reynolds 520, or Reynolds 631. The Reynolds 631 Jamis Quest Elite comes in at 20 pounds they say.
https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/questseries.html
https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/questseries.html
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Hi All,
In the market for a lightweight steel road frame. Trying to keep it non-disc, and a threaded BB. Been reading around and it seems like Reynolds 853 Steel is pretty light, but we can get lighter too.
Anyone have any lightweight road bikes/frames they recommend?
Best,
996
In the market for a lightweight steel road frame. Trying to keep it non-disc, and a threaded BB. Been reading around and it seems like Reynolds 853 Steel is pretty light, but we can get lighter too.
Anyone have any lightweight road bikes/frames they recommend?
Best,
996
Here is a review of the frame by an English bike magazine. https://www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/66...rco-xcr-review
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I may opt for a Soma ES frame and add a carbon fork to it... mstateglfr
There seem to be some decent deals on them now and they weight about 4ish pounds. Only thing is that I would need long reach brake calipers.
Appreciate everyone's input.
There seem to be some decent deals on them now and they weight about 4ish pounds. Only thing is that I would need long reach brake calipers.
Appreciate everyone's input.
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The Jamis Quest. Your choice of 4130, Reynolds 520, or Reynolds 631. The Reynolds 631 Jamis Quest Elite comes in at 20 pounds they say.
https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/questseries.html
https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/questseries.html
$1750 for full 105 drivetrain, Ritchey cockpit and wheels, and full carbon fork.
The geometry in the largest size is fantastic too- nice and neutral...except for the insane 66.5mm BB drop. What?!? Its a road bike- why is there such little drop? Thatd be interesting to understand.
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Absolutely! Full Campy Super Record 12 x 2 groupset with direct mount brakes. And, Italian made carbon seatpost, stem, handlebars from WR Compositi and a Selle SMP Pro saddle with carbon rails. The wheels however are HED Belgium Plus with White Industries T11 hubs and Vittoria Corsa Control tubeless tires. The pedals are Look Keo Blade Carbon Ceramic Ti. I'm guessing it will be about 19 lbs. Not bad for a steel fork bike. I really don't see much point in getting a steel frame and then ruining the lines with a carbon fork. The frame would last forever, but the fork...who knows.