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Old 01-15-13, 05:49 PM
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Recommendation request for a trainer

My wife and I are looking to purchase a trainer for our bikes. We are considering a CycleOps hydraulic model that retails around $300 give or take. What is the consensus on this brand / model?

If there is something better we should look at, please let me know. I am searching the net for info, but separating the truth from the hype isn't easy.

Thanks!
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You'll find plenty of recommendations for the KK trainer. Similar price to cyclops, less likely (impossible) to leak fluid. Probably a wash between the two.
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KK is Kurt Kinetic? That's the one that lets you rock side to side? I think that's cool! I'd really like to try one, but my older Cycleops fluid trainer is still going fine.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
KK is Kurt Kinetic? That's the one that lets you rock side to side? I think that's cool! I'd really like to try one, but my older Cycleops fluid trainer is still going fine.
Base model of the Kurt Kinetic is fixed (Road Machine?). The "Rock and Roll" is the one that can move and is ~$200 more.

I've been very pleased with the Road Machine I've had for 2+ years (rode it > 2k miles last winter/spring). I have an old full suspension MTB mounted to it (with drop bars and the same positioning as my road bike), and the squishiness of the half-inflated shocks makes it flexy feeling, kind of as I'd expect the Rock and Roll to be.
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Thank you for the replies so far. I will look at the KK and CycleOps to compare.
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Another KK Road Machine recommendation.
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For general use, I'd look at ease of mounting/removing bikes, reputation for not leaking, general ease of use. Cycleops is IMO one of the better brands. KK's fame is the unit's power-speed curve is sufficiently stable to make it usable for power-based training. For most of us, that's more of a nice-to-have than must have (but quite nice). DC Rainmaker has some trainer reviews on his blog https://www.dcrainmaker.com
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Originally Posted by ks1g
For general use, I'd look at ease of mounting/removing bikes, reputation for not leaking, general ease of use. Cycleops is IMO one of the better brands. KK's fame is the unit's power-speed curve is sufficiently stable to make it usable for power-based training. For most of us, that's more of a nice-to-have than must have (but quite nice). DC Rainmaker has some trainer reviews on his blog https://www.dcrainmaker.com
I thought the impossibility of leaking was one of the KK selling points. Rather than use a shaft (which requires a seal, and has the potential of leaking from use) between the wheel roller and whatever moves in the fluid, the KK used magnets to transmit the force.

* I never tried a Cyclops fluid trainer before buying my KK, though did try (and returned) a Cyclops magnetic unit. The Cyclops seemed very well built, but not being able to adjust the resistance from the bike was too much of a hassle. I think both brands had lifetime warranties, so probably either is a safe bet if you don't mind a warranty hassle.
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We have two Cycleops in the garage, a fluid2 that I use and a magneto that Mrs. Fred uses. We have developed a vibration in both units. Mrs. Fred found hers intolerable and the local distributor replaced the resistance unit, no questions asked. Mine only vibrates within a certain speed range, which I'm typically training above, so, I've just gotten along with it.

When was the last time someone actually had a current model Fluid2 leak? To the best of my knowledge this was a problem with earlier models that has long since been rectified.

The Kurt Kinetic road machine is very similiar, with the addition of the magnetic coupling and fully sealed resistance housing.

If I had the opportunity to try one firtst, I would consider the Rock and Roll.
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I have been using a trainer called one up https://www.1upusa.com/
https://www.1upusa.com/product-trainer.html
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kurt-Kinetic...item27cedd2044
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I've been using a CycleOps Fluid2 since 2006. Still going strong, reasonably quiet, no vibration, realistic resistance.

There may be equally good trainers out there, but I couldn't be more pleased with my choice. FWIW.
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I'm going to post and contribute basically nothing to the conversation because that's how I roll. A lot of people I have talked to said they used rollers to simulate real world biking because you have to control the bike while riding, but I personally use the Kurt Kinetic because I found it really cheap at a local shop. I have not heard anything negative about Cycleops fluid trainers. I've also heard good things about sufferfest videos, but again I have not tried those yet either.
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Old 01-24-13, 08:13 PM
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It's too cold to ride and I am itching to get my 2013 fitness moving! I am considering a trainer purchase. Just how loud do these things sound? Would the fluid trainers be more quiet than the magnetic ones? I also saw in a bike catalog that there is a tire you buy specifically for trainers. Does that also reduce the noise significantly? Thanks or your thoughts
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Old 01-27-13, 09:25 PM
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The CycleOps Fluid 2 is excellent for the money. Not noisy. And trainer tires are often installed cause these type trainers WILL wear out tires. Trainer tires have thicker tread.
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