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Old 08-19-18, 11:06 PM
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That certainly places the rider in an aggressive position.
interesting frame.
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Old 08-20-18, 05:36 AM
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Riding position may look aggressive, but only because of the visual of the stem/head tube/top tube junction; in actuality, the drop from saddle to handlebar top is less than 2" similar to my regular road bike.

The Toseek handlebar does seem more flexy than my other carbon handlebar, but I've used more than four of them on other bikes over the last 2 years, never had a problem with them, plenty comfortable and light.. cheap, too.
I weigh less than 170 lb., not sprinting among cat.1 racers, no need for ultra stiff handlebars.

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My next Chinese project:

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Originally Posted by cat0020
My next Chinese project:

didn't you already build this?

Nevermind.
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I purchased one last summer from one of the Amazon shop selling ICANCYCLING and have been very impressed. I have checked that this brand is from Shenzhen, China. I paid $475 for the wheelset shipped. I had previously owned Cannondales and aTrek Madone and this wheelset is superior to both the Cannondale and Trek.

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Build project #2 :


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Very futuristic.
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Originally Posted by cat0020
Build project #2 :
interesting design.
can you share geometey of the frame?
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Old 10-12-18, 05:39 AM
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Mine is a 54 or 540:

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So 75degree seat tube and 395mm chainstay. Thats...aggressive. What will you use this for- time trials?
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The seatpost the comes with the framekit has about 11cm of fore/aft adjustment; plenty of room to move about.
Time trial or just putz around looking fast, got it cheap enough that I can try it out and sell it easily for a profit.
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Originally Posted by sally552
I purchased one last summer from one of the Amazon shop selling ICANCYCLING and have been very impressed. I have checked that this brand is from Shenzhen, China. I paid $475 for the wheelset shipped. I had previously owned Cannondales and aTrek Madone and this wheelset is superior to both the Cannondale and Trek.

I've purchased the Ican Fl40 wheelset and after 2000km I'm very happy, I had a little issue with the front rim, but Ican solved the problem quickly

I'm looking for some info about the frame in the picture, I know it's a Fasterway Classic, but I do not know other specs, I'll will be glad to know something about the ride quality. I'm going to the market for a new road carbon frame, and this frame have many of the specs that I'm looking for, for example the seat tube angle 73° the standard seatpost, the tyre clearance is very good, the direct mount brakes ... on the paper it is perfect, but I would to know something about stiffness, harshness, climbing and descending quality ..
I will appreciate any suggestion you will give to me.
Thank you in advance.
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Why direct mount brakes specific?
In my experience with four Chinese carbon frames, they are not the most "stiff" of frames, power transfer is good, but if you're looking for "stiffness" that allow you to sprint among the best and torque your handlebar to squeeze out every pedal stroke, they are probably not the most "stiff" frames for that.

If you are able to pedal smoothly and use your up strokes as well as down strokes, the frame "stiffness" of the ones I've owned are actually pretty good.
I'm not much of a out-of-saddle climber, I try to spin up or grind in lower rpm for most climbs while seated and let the legs & low back do all the work.
If you like to power up most climbs out-of-saddle, IMO, bargain Chinese carbon frame may not be the best for you.
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Originally Posted by cat0020
Why direct mount brakes specific?
In my experience with four Chinese carbon frames, they are not the most "stiff" of frames, power transfer is good, but if you're looking for "stiffness" that allow you to sprint among the best and torque your handlebar to squeeze out every pedal stroke, they are probably not the most "stiff" frames for that.

If you are able to pedal smoothly and use your up strokes as well as down strokes, the frame "stiffness" of the ones I've owned are actually pretty good.
I'm not much of a out-of-saddle climber, I try to spin up or grind in lower rpm for most climbs while seated and let the legs & low back do all the work.
If you like to power up most climbs out-of-saddle, IMO, bargain Chinese carbon frame may not be the best for you.
I'm talkin about direct mount rim brakes.
You have the Fasterway Classic or you know some owner?
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I am familiar with direct mount rim brakes, I was asking why specifically wanting those mounts on the frame?
Are you having problem stopping or slowing down with regular brake calipers?

No, I do not have experience with Fasterway Classic frame specifically.
I've built myself four carbon frames from no-name Chinese carbon frame manufacture and have three different carbon wheelsets from eBay Chinese seller.
I was only offering my experience with those frames and wheels that I've used.
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Originally Posted by cat0020
I am familiar with direct mount rim brakes, I was asking why specifically wanting those mounts on the frame?
Are you having problem stopping or slowing down with regular brake calipers?

No, I do not have experience with Fasterway Classic frame specifically.
I've built myself four carbon frames from no-name Chinese carbon frame manufacture and have three different carbon wheelsets from eBay Chinese seller.
I was only offering my experience with those frames and wheels that I've used.
Please don't misunderstand me, I appreciate your advice.
I will complete the new frame with an Ultegra 8000 groupset (with direct mount brakes 8010) maybe an Dura Ace groupset
I think that the direct mount offers a pretty plus compared to the standard brakes, and I think they are the last chance before the disc brakes...
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Personally, if you are looking for better braking performance, just go directly to disc brakes.
Direct mount brakes do not seem to offer significant performance improvement over regular caliper brakes, unless you're regularly braking hard to slow down at the last possible second; which usually limit your options in maneuvering the bike.
But the requirement of direct mount brakes do limit yourself to other frames that could cost less and perform just as well.
If you are sticking with rim brakes, I don't see the need to limit yourself to a direct mount specific frame.
IMO, disc brakes frames are going to be produced more and more, likely will quickly outnumber regular caliper brake mounting frames, definitely out number direct mount frames in few years.

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Originally Posted by cat0020
Personally, if you are looking for better braking performance, just go directly to disc brakes.
Direct mount brakes do not seem to offer significant performance improvement over regular caliper brakes, unless you're regularly braking hard to slow down at the last possible second; which usually limit your options in maneuvering the bike.
But the requirement of direct mount brakes do limit yourself to other frames that could cost less and perform just as well.
If you are sticking with rim brakes, I don't see the need to limit yourself to a direct mount specific frame.
IMO, disc brakes frames are going to be produced more and more, likely will quickly outnumber regular caliper brake mounting frames, definitely out number direct mount frames in few years.
This^

Direct mount brakes seem like more of a fad that didn't last long and has already passed. I wouldn't purposely invest in technology that isn't going to be around for a while.
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Originally Posted by cat0020
Personally, if you are looking for better braking performance, just go directly to disc brakes.
Direct mount brakes do not seem to offer significant performance improvement over regular caliper brakes, unless you're regularly braking hard to slow down at the last possible second; which usually limit your options in maneuvering the bike.
But the requirement of direct mount brakes do limit yourself to other frames that could cost less and perform just as well.
If you are sticking with rim brakes, I don't see the need to limit yourself to a direct mount specific frame.
IMO, disc brakes frames are going to be produced more and more, likely will quickly outnumber regular caliper brake mounting frames, definitely out number direct mount frames in few years.
So you can suggest to me some models of frame with disc brake, but with the other specs that I've mentioned before?
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Best do your own research if you have specific geometry for frame cannot provide a budget, riding style.
Usually geometry specification would require custom frame builder, not a common option for bargain carbon frames.

Easy search of: "Disc carbon road frames" on eBay can likely give you some results.

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I still have a few good wheelsets for rim brakes, that's why I haven't gotten a carbon disc frame yet.
But I think sometime soon that will change.
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Originally Posted by cat0020
I still have a few good wheelsets for rim brakes, that's why I haven't gotten a carbon disc frame yet.
But I think sometime soon that will change.
I also have a few good wheelsets for rim brakes, but I'm not intentioned to change for disc soon ..... if it's possible
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I think rim brake bicycle will have its market share, until they stop producing rim brake wheels.. even for little kids bikes.
If you already have good rim brake wheelsets and feel no need for extended braking performance that require disc brakes, then stay with rim brake bikes.
For now you have more choices in cheap carbon frame with rim brake vs disc brake, try one see if you like the ride of cheap carbon frame; when you're ready to move on to disc brake, by then maybe cheap carbon disc frame would also become more popular to have more choices.

[u]Here's an interesting frame:

Disc & rim brake compatible, QR & Thru-axle compatible.


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Originally Posted by cat0020
I think rim brake bicycle will have its market share, until they stop producing rim brake wheels.. even for little kids bikes.
If you already have good rim brake wheelsets and feel no need for extended braking performance that require disc brakes, then stay with rim brake bikes.
For now you have more choices in cheap carbon frame with rim brake vs disc brake, try one see if you like the ride of cheap carbon frame; when you're ready to move on to disc brake, by then maybe cheap carbon disc frame would also become more popular to have more choices.

[u]Here's an interesting frame:

Disc & rim brake compatible, QR & Thru-axle compatible.
I think that the frame in the picture posted by @sallly552 can be a good compromise, the frame is a Fasterway Classic, the geometry it's good, and other specs are ook for me, like direct mount brakes and the tyre clearance up to 29mm or more, but I don't know nothing about the ride quality, if there is some owners of this frame I'd like very much to know their impressions about the ride quality.

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