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Old 08-15-18, 08:40 PM
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Paramount P-13

I'm considering adding this to my list of potential bikes for which to find new homes. It's a 1975 Schwinn Paramount P13. I suppose these are pretty complete pictures. Is $1000 too much? too little? the wheels are clinchers,btw.









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Fleece bay or local sale? Repaint or original paint and decals?

i couldn’t get $1k in my local market but could over $1k on eBay. Would probably part it out since some parts are not original.
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Great looking frame set chrome paint looks to be original and very good but are very nice repaint if not for the slightly misplaced graphics you couldn't see it I wouldn't have issues with this quality vintage repaint if everything else was correct. Which is a bit of a mismatch for the parts most of which are mostly wrong and bit below original in quality I would say half the asking on a local sale and $800 parted..

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Old 08-17-18, 12:42 PM
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thanks for the feedback. I thought that the graphics are original. It was presented to me without a lot of background data, but belonged to someone who had owned it forever and I think was of the mind to try to keep functional & a nice bike but with no interest in "original" or "show" if that makes sense...well, hell, I guess it shows this.

I suppose I need to do some research, but I has thought that there is no such thing as original equipment for one of these because they were typically sold as frames & built by a shop, maybe with a typical built kit, but nothing specified. I'm incorrect on that, yes? I need to re-check, but I guess the shifters are not the campy NR match, levers are what most people who were riding not restoring would have swapped to some time in the 1980s, but I thought the rest probably had been on the bike since new. interesting.

Sounds like fleabay (which is probably what I'd do because I have had very little luck with finding serious interest here in bikes & it's a bit off from the usual fare of what I would buy or sell at Paceline)...craigslist is mostly pointless unless I like to talk to crazy people and have offers of $100 for it.
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P12-13 were typically built to order they would put nearly anything in the Schwinn / Campy/ or Suntour parts catalogs if you asked for it and would pay a bit extra.
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I am no expert but the only Suntour equipment that I have ever seen was the RD, Weinman brakes etc. otherwise all Campagnolo as far as I remember or "Schwinn approved".
RD is newer Campy and seat and pedals are not specific to Paramount.
If you are buying I would think 500 to max 700
500 to 700 max on CL if lucky.
Fleabay about maybe 800 but factor % back to PP and Fb as well as sellers time to pack etc.
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Originally Posted by zukahn1
P12-13 were typically built to order they would put nearly anything in the Schwinn / Campy/ or Suntour parts catalogs if you asked for it and would pay a bit extra.
That's a negative, at least from the factory. They were built at the factory with a very specific list of options, no substitutions allowed. A dealer however could change anything the customer wanted after the fact. The OP's bike is a '75, but here is the '76 order form. See where it says "Please Note: Only the options listed in this order form can be supplied as stated for each model". This was the same for most of the '60s and all of the '70s:

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Wow, thanks even more. Oh, yeah, I guess the original owner put the newer Campy RD & shifters and changed the levers.

so, someone said (I think?) the decals are wrong for a ‘75...is this true?

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Originally Posted by fiataccompli
so, someone said (I think?) the decals are wrong for a ‘75...is this true?
Those decals look correct to me. https://re-cycle.com/images/Schwinn/1975cat/12-13.jpg
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