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Old 03-02-24, 12:56 PM
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I will say that the transition from stays to fork ends is very clean, though. Smooth with real attention to detail, nice lines. I'd be curious to see the dropouts, and if they were handled similarly.
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Here are the fork ends. The really crazy thing about this bike is that it only weighs 20 pounds, about a pound or two more than my carbon bike with Dura-ace.


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I have a small collection of vintage track- 6day bicycles from various builders, Wastyn, Brennan, Drysdale, etc. The best way I found to identify most is by the lug cutouts, a lot of builders generally followed a pattern that they developed and stuck to throughout their careers. The head tube, fork crown cutouts, and the dropouts are your best clues to identify these types of bikes. Serials can be helpful, but not always, for instance Brennan’s don’t have serials, Wastyn was known to put what ever serial you wanted on a particular bicycle, Drysdale put his serials on the back of the fork crown. For the most part you can’t always identify a bicycle by its components, the BSA chainring for instance can be found on every bicycle I have mentioned, it’s akin to a Campagnolo chainring on a vintage bike, it was a widely used component across many bikes- builders. This also applies to most components, BSA made headsets, bottom brackets, hubs, etc; that were used on many bicycle makes.

There are a couple great resources to help identify these bikes, Jeff Groman’s Classic Cycles is one of my favorites.

https://classiccycleus.com/

This Weaver has similar headtube cutouts…


so does this Wastyn…



Of course none of this is 100%, but it could narrow down your search. Very cool bike by the way.
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Originally Posted by St33lWh33ls
I have a small collection of vintage track- 6day bicycles from various builders, Wastyn, Brennan, Drysdale, etc. The best way I found to identify most is by the lug cutouts, a lot of builders generally followed a pattern that they developed and stuck to throughout their careers. The head tube, fork crown cutouts, and the dropouts are your best clues to identify these types of bikes. Serials can be helpful, but not always, for instance Brennan’s don’t have serials, Wastyn was known to put what ever serial you wanted on a particular bicycle, Drysdale put his serials on the back of the fork crown. For the most part you can’t always identify a bicycle by its components, the BSA chainring for instance can be found on every bicycle I have mentioned, it’s akin to a Campagnolo chainring on a vintage bike, it was a widely used component across many bikes- builders. This also applies to most components, BSA made headsets, bottom brackets, hubs, etc; that were used on many bicycle makes.

There are a couple great resources to help identify these bikes, Jeff Groman’s Classic Cycles is one of my favorites.

https://classiccycleus.com/

This Weaver has similar headtube cutouts…


so does this Wastyn…



Of course none of this is 100%, but it could narrow down your search. Very cool bike by the way.
Thanks very much for the information and photos!
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Basically identical to this old Stayer bike which we always thought might be a "MITTENS".

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Basically identical to this old Stayer bike which we always thought might be a "MITTENS".

Thanks for the photo and information! Lots of good information to look into!
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All those fork ends look to be the same as Wastyn used on Paramount's.
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