Why are roadies going 1x11 or 1x12?
07-23-19, 08:20 AM
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Odd that i've done quite a number of 17mph group rides on it with no problem keeping up. It's a 40T with a 11-32 which has about the same range as a 11-28 with a compact crank on my "aging" road bike. Since Long Island is rather flat, only 2000 feet on a 40 mile ride I have no problem climbing and there's just not enough long descents to miss a big ring.
BTW, my "aging" bike has over 23,000 miles. At what points should I be posting in the Vintage forum?
BTW, my "aging" bike has over 23,000 miles. At what points should I be posting in the Vintage forum?
1X makes little sense on a road bike, is my view. Especially on relatively flat terrain.
07-23-19, 08:25 AM
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I did I went from 301 to 295 recently. I don't notice more power in the legs since my big weight loss. Me and the other guys in my weight watchers group are starting a "cycling team" of sorts so I'll probably get stronger, already cycling 20 miles a day on the Madone. Honestly the ride on the Madone is pretty crappy, it just feels harsh. I don't think the design of this bike is any good. When is the last time this frame won in the tour?
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1x is also the in thing in the touring world. You'll have to pry my triple from my cold, dead hand. It's not just about range. For me, there is not much worse gearing-wise than being in between gears while climbing some long pass fully loaded for hours.
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Well, maybe on some. Trek 520, Surly LHT and Kona Sutra (EDIT: Also the Salsa Marrakesh) all come with triples. VeloOrange and Soma sell triples for the frames. Many others offer 2X with a wide cassette which mostly gets you the high and low range, though with fewer gears overall. I'm actually only seeing 1X on gravel and cross type bikes.
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07-23-19, 09:28 AM
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Not everyone has the chops to ride a true 1x on the road...
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paging @DrIsotope to tell you it doesn't work that way
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07-23-19, 11:08 AM
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Even if you never use your 11 & 12 on a 2X system, you still have about 14 useful gears, vs. 11 on your 1X. On flat Long Island, having fewer jumps between gears means it's easier to maintain a steady cadence. If you were always riding hills or rollers and were constantly shifting 2 or 3 gears at a time as you approached a roller, I could see 1X. That's kind of what mt. biking is like, but unlike mt. biking where you have less time to "plan" your front shift, that's less an issue on the road.
1X makes little sense on a road bike, is my view. Especially on relatively flat terrain.
1X makes little sense on a road bike, is my view. Especially on relatively flat terrain.
Then it's no a BIcycle.
I don't need the low end or the high end. BTW, you do know I have a second bike with a compact and a 11-28.
I live on Long Island where the highest climb is 200'.
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I started another thread earlier this year toying with the idea of switching my road bike to a 1 x 11. It would have worked well here since I have zero hills except for overpasses. My reasoning was the 105 left shifter had broken twice since 2012 and it was getting annoying. However, I chickened out. I may consider it if I have more issues.
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Accidentally found myself at a swap meet for 1x. Simpler and relatively fewer parts seemed interesting. Buying all new drive components to convert my bike did not. Nice, patient folks at the lbs said the chains are specially made to flex.
Different spokes for different folks
Different spokes for different folks
07-23-19, 12:51 PM
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I'm very content with my compact 50/34. I couldn't get by with 1x here in the mountains.
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07-23-19, 02:09 PM
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I live in flat Chicago. I'm going 1x from 50/34 11-28 to 46 11-34 on my roadie. I have 42 11-32 on my gravel bike-road wheelset. It's going to cost me a gear on the top and the bottom. I don't mind the jumps because I've got cadence range. I won't miss the FD, which drops 5% of the shifts when setup right. The only downside is when you crest a hill and there's a steep downhill, it's nice to do a little ring-big ring jump. The 1x takes longer to upshift. Otherwise, 1x shifts much nicer than 2x because there's a more rigid RD.
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It was called Mountain Tamer. It took Suntour freewheel cogs, if that gives you an idea of the vintage. Good for tandems and trikes. The website looks like they are still selling old stock of adapters but you're on your own to find the really low cogs.
https://abundantadventures.com/quads.html
https://abundantadventures.com/quads.html
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07-23-19, 02:31 PM
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It was called Mountain Tamer. It took Suntour freewheel cogs, if that gives you an idea of the vintage. The website looks like they are still selling old stock of adapters but you're on your own to find the really low cogs.
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