Disc brake cross bike and climbing
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Disc brake cross bike and climbing
I recently crashed my "climbing" bike & pretty much totaled it. I have another bike that I use for the flats and shorter rides. I really like this set up so I don't have to change gearing all the time.
I also like doing the gravel fundo's that are popular & had been using my climbing bike for those events. On some of the descents I'd been wanting disc brakes just for piece of mind - feeling of safety on the steep, gravel descents.
I'm thinking of getting a carbon cross bike with disc brakes as my climbing bike. Any serious issues with this? I know it'd weigh a little more, but that's about the only negative I can think of. I'd be using this bike for the gravel fundo's, mountain centuries and joy rides.
I also like doing the gravel fundo's that are popular & had been using my climbing bike for those events. On some of the descents I'd been wanting disc brakes just for piece of mind - feeling of safety on the steep, gravel descents.
I'm thinking of getting a carbon cross bike with disc brakes as my climbing bike. Any serious issues with this? I know it'd weigh a little more, but that's about the only negative I can think of. I'd be using this bike for the gravel fundo's, mountain centuries and joy rides.
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For me, the benefit to a cross bike (if you are not racing cross) is the multi-functional nature and being able to add fenders, racks, etc. I'm not sure carbon cross bikes have that ability. Maybe some do. However, a mixed purpose cross/climbing bike sounds like a not ideal mix. My road bike IS my climbing/descending/flats/fast bike. If I wanted to ride gravel roads or anytime I need to carry more stuff I'd take my aluminum cross bike.
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For me, the benefit to a cross bike (if you are not racing cross) is the multi-functional nature and being able to add fenders, racks, etc. I'm not sure carbon cross bikes have that ability. Maybe some do. However, a mixed purpose cross/climbing bike sounds like a not ideal mix. My road bike IS my climbing/descending/flats/fast bike. If I wanted to ride gravel roads or anytime I need to carry more stuff I'd take my aluminum cross bike.
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I have been looking for a similar bike and have pretty much settled on a Diamondback RCX Pro Disc. The reviews say it weighs 18.15 lbs in the disc version for a 56 cm and it has rack mounts too.
SRAM Force drivetrain with FSA carbon cockpit. 11 speed too. Yes, the frame is aluminum but the reviews also suggest that the ride is not harsh.
I just need to find the time to swing by my LBS and place an order.
SRAM Force drivetrain with FSA carbon cockpit. 11 speed too. Yes, the frame is aluminum but the reviews also suggest that the ride is not harsh.
I just need to find the time to swing by my LBS and place an order.
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So do you have a decent road bike, with gearing appropriate for where you ride? That'd be #1
I have a CX bike- aluminum but higher end- no eyelets, etc. Good back up for the road, and great for mixed pavement/fire road rides, and set up for mtn shoes so does town/errands too. Knobbies in the winter, and fatter slicks when it's dry. No fenders.
If you want disk brakes because you want them, fine, but the reason to have them on a CX bike is more about mud than stopping power. Also the geometry tends to give you a more upright position so less favorable at road speeds.
I have a CX bike- aluminum but higher end- no eyelets, etc. Good back up for the road, and great for mixed pavement/fire road rides, and set up for mtn shoes so does town/errands too. Knobbies in the winter, and fatter slicks when it's dry. No fenders.
If you want disk brakes because you want them, fine, but the reason to have them on a CX bike is more about mud than stopping power. Also the geometry tends to give you a more upright position so less favorable at road speeds.
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My thinking is your bike planning is not ideal. In other words, a good road bike is also a good climbing bike. I can't see much point in a climbing bike and a flat road bike (unless you want/need a TT bike). I'd just get a good road bike and not worry too much about disc although more are coming with disc. Get an aluminum CX bike if you need something for gravel roads, bad weather, commuting, etc.
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I've got a good aero, road bike that I use for the small amount of races that I enter and the faster group rides. The gearing on it just won't work on some of the mountain centuries & such so that's why I really need (as a matter of convenience) at least 2 road bikes.
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I recently crashed my "climbing" bike & pretty much totaled it. I have another bike that I use for the flats and shorter rides. I really like this set up so I don't have to change gearing all the time.
I also like doing the gravel fundo's that are popular & had been using my climbing bike for those events. On some of the descents I'd been wanting disc brakes just for piece of mind - feeling of safety on the steep, gravel descents.
I'm thinking of getting a carbon cross bike with disc brakes as my climbing bike. Any serious issues with this? I know it'd weigh a little more, but that's about the only negative I can think of. I'd be using this bike for the gravel fundo's, mountain centuries and joy rides.
I also like doing the gravel fundo's that are popular & had been using my climbing bike for those events. On some of the descents I'd been wanting disc brakes just for piece of mind - feeling of safety on the steep, gravel descents.
I'm thinking of getting a carbon cross bike with disc brakes as my climbing bike. Any serious issues with this? I know it'd weigh a little more, but that's about the only negative I can think of. I'd be using this bike for the gravel fundo's, mountain centuries and joy rides.
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Cross bike with V-brakes will be lighter and just as good in all those applications. Disc brakes are for the wet.
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OTOH, i don't think there is anything i would object to about buying a carbon cross bike.
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If I was forced to have only one bike, it would be a carbon, disc braked CX bike.
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IF you want the versatility of big tires, racks, and easy fenders, take a look at a Novara Strada at REI. I was looking at cross bikes but ended up preferring the versatility of the Strada. It's got a ton of frame clearance and long-reach brakes; I have 35mm tires on it now but it'd easily go way bigger. It's got all the frame eyelets you need. Carbon fork and a 10-speed compact 105 drivetrain- there's your climbing gearing. $11XX bucks.
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i always thought that disc brakes had their advantages, but stopping on gravel was not one of them. after all, it's much easier to lock up a wheel on gravel (essentially unround marbles) than on tarmac. and locking up a wheel would not be what i was looking for on a descent. others may, and no doubt will, disagree.
OP, the advantage of disc brakes is in their modulation, the quality of braking control. The reason disc brakes are so good in wet conditions is that they don't have to scrape one rotation's worth of water from a wet rim before braking can start. That doesn't mean you won't also have great control in dry conditions, or mud, or gravel dust. FWIW, I run disc brakes on my gravelbike and wouldn't have it any other way.
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Discs are for modulation and also work better in the wet.
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Interesting about the purpose of the brakes. I thought the discs had better stopping power. If not, I'm not hung up on them.
I've got a good aero, road bike that I use for the small amount of races that I enter and the faster group rides. The gearing on it just won't work on some of the mountain centuries & such so that's why I really need (as a matter of convenience) at least 2 road bikes.
I've got a good aero, road bike that I use for the small amount of races that I enter and the faster group rides. The gearing on it just won't work on some of the mountain centuries & such so that's why I really need (as a matter of convenience) at least 2 road bikes.
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Yeah, I could see you being really happy with a bike like that.
28c tires roll OK on the road, & good on less than sloppy off-road at lower pressure.
28c tires roll OK on the road, & good on less than sloppy off-road at lower pressure.
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It could but I'd need to change the chain each time also due to the ratio differences. I tried this for a while, but I just don't enjoy changing everything out all the time. It's very common for me to want to ride each bike at least once a week. Also, my road bike has carbon wheels so there's brake pads to change also. The second bike is truly a luxury item/matter of convenience.
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If you already have a road boke you like, why not just pick up a climbng cassette for it?
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I know two brands who already have road specific disc calipers in development that will weigh only a handful of grams more than current road brakes.
We are developing a disc specific carbon rim with excellent aero properties that are lighter than their rim brake equivalents.
Brake levers are a no-brainer.
So yeah, I guess you can thank Obama for disc equipped bikes only slightly heavier than current bikes using rim brakes.
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I don't see the big problem with your original idea if you don't mind a little extra weight. However, you don't necessarily need a cross bike if all you want is disc brakes. More road bikes are coming out with them. As mentioned, Volagi was the original and if I were looking for a new bike it would be near the top of my list. It fits 28s if you use a wider tire on your gravel rides.
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A typical CX bike is also likely to have a higher BB (i.e. less BB drop) for increased clearance vs. a typical road bike. You'll have to decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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I have always liked having two road bikes that are set up for somewhat different purposes. A cross bike is more of an all rounder than a typical road bike so it is a great choice for a 2d bike and it typically comes with gearing that better suited for climbing.
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A Trek Chronus Ultimate CX has clearance for at least 32mm tires and has rack/fender eyelets. Depending on the wheels, it can do gravel grinders or a uphill TT.
Decked out with top of the line components and robust wheels, mine is a 16 pound bike. I'm 6'3'' and a Clyde. YMMV.
Decked out with top of the line components and robust wheels, mine is a 16 pound bike. I'm 6'3'' and a Clyde. YMMV.
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