2020 Specialized Tarmac Disc Expert or 2020 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc
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2020 Specialized Tarmac Disc Expert or 2020 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc
Hello, my roadie folks! I've been researching for a few weeks now for a new race bike. I've looked at other brands and my choices narrowed down to these two bikes. They are almost identical in price but the Giant TCR has power meter installed so I feel like it's a better deal. I need your input on what would be a better choice. Both bikes has the same drive train (Ultegra Di2) and both have carbon rims. Also, if you have any suggestion/s in this price range please let me know so I can consider and look at them also. Thank you.
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Well, I looked at both of those bikes when I was deciding where to dump my money recently. The Giant TCR seemed to be winning all kinds of fame and glory last year, and the Specialized Tarmac is just a regular sight in most races, so I'd say they're both great options. The issue I had was that I couldn't get the Expert here. If I was able to, you'd probably see one in my house right now. Of course, there's always a Trek Emonda SL7, or Orbea Orca M20i (or similar) that are probably close in both weight and performance. But at the end of the day, people all ride varying brands, and all have a chance to win, so I doubt it comes down to which brand you pick.
Test ride them all, find the one you like most, and that's the one you will ride the fastest. Cheers and happy shopping!
Test ride them all, find the one you like most, and that's the one you will ride the fastest. Cheers and happy shopping!
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I'm a long time lurker and recently struggled with a very similar decision. I've been riding Specialized bikes since the 90's. My previous road bike was a 2009 Tarmac S-Works.
I purchased the 2020 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 Disc (medium frame). It's the same as the Advanced Pro 1 but with SRAM Force AXS instead of the Ultegra DI2. The Giant is fantastic in every way. I highly recommend it.
The TCR's geometry is within millimeters of the Tarmac with the exception of the top tube length which is 10mm longer due to the Giant's 73 degree seat tube angle vs. the Tarmac's 74 degrees. This gives a slightly longer cockpit which is fine for me. Sliding the saddle 10mm forward will compensate for the seat tube angle difference.
A difference you did not mention is that Giant has tubeless tires installed and ready to go. The Tarmac comes with tubes. This is often a matter of personal preference.
The TCR's ride is exceptional, it is much smoother then the ride on my old Tarmac with 23mm tires. I assume the newer Tarmac also has an improved ride.
The Advanced Pro 0 comes with a Quarq power, which is different than the one on the Advanced Pro 1. It is my first power meter and I have found it to be very helpful. I've been able to improve my riding with it by keeping my power output reasonable on rolling hills where I would often crank out more power than I could reasonably maintain. I'm able to ride longer and faster without getting fatigued. Having a power meter opens up many new avenues to improving fitness. I've only just begun working with it. I will say that the power meter has been eye opening, my perceived effort has almost no relation to what the power meter tells me.
I've been a fan of Specialized for a very long time and was hesitant to switch to a Giant. The TCR is awesome and I have no regrets about buying it. I'm sure the Tarmac is also an excellent bike but the Giant is just as good and power meter is very nice to have if you are working on improving your fitness.
I purchased the 2020 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 Disc (medium frame). It's the same as the Advanced Pro 1 but with SRAM Force AXS instead of the Ultegra DI2. The Giant is fantastic in every way. I highly recommend it.
The TCR's geometry is within millimeters of the Tarmac with the exception of the top tube length which is 10mm longer due to the Giant's 73 degree seat tube angle vs. the Tarmac's 74 degrees. This gives a slightly longer cockpit which is fine for me. Sliding the saddle 10mm forward will compensate for the seat tube angle difference.
A difference you did not mention is that Giant has tubeless tires installed and ready to go. The Tarmac comes with tubes. This is often a matter of personal preference.
The TCR's ride is exceptional, it is much smoother then the ride on my old Tarmac with 23mm tires. I assume the newer Tarmac also has an improved ride.
The Advanced Pro 0 comes with a Quarq power, which is different than the one on the Advanced Pro 1. It is my first power meter and I have found it to be very helpful. I've been able to improve my riding with it by keeping my power output reasonable on rolling hills where I would often crank out more power than I could reasonably maintain. I'm able to ride longer and faster without getting fatigued. Having a power meter opens up many new avenues to improving fitness. I've only just begun working with it. I will say that the power meter has been eye opening, my perceived effort has almost no relation to what the power meter tells me.
I've been a fan of Specialized for a very long time and was hesitant to switch to a Giant. The TCR is awesome and I have no regrets about buying it. I'm sure the Tarmac is also an excellent bike but the Giant is just as good and power meter is very nice to have if you are working on improving your fitness.
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Phoenix800, thanks for your input. I've been leaning towards TCR from day one. I think the included power meter is a great deal. I can now finally monitor and gauge my effort.
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I have the same Specialized bike that you have except it doesn't have Di2 shifting and it's a 2019. It has been a great bike for me and I really like it. I like to ride fast but I am not a bike racer. The disc brakes are great as is the carbon fiber frame. 52-36 up front and the rear cassette that's 11-30 work very well. Two thumbs up from me!
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I'm a Specialized fan from way back, with an Allez and a Roubaix, but my friend just showed up with this new Trek Madone, which is pretty cool, and seems to have the specs you want. Not to confuse things but life is all about choices. My last new bike was from 2013, but i like the looks of this one.
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I went through the exact same process last summer, I was looking at the tcr advance pro 0 disc, Tarmac expert, and trek Madone. In the end it came down to money and which shop was willing to deal. I walked out with the TCR and haven’t looked back. It’s responsive, fast, smooth and looks great. I’m a firm believer that when you get into that range of bike they will all perform, so buy what you like best. I’m a deal guy so I will ride whatever i can get the best deal on.