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Old 09-15-19, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by trsnrtr View Post
lasers? No one has ever heard of a plumb bob? smfh

seriously, i put the bike in an old trainer and use a carpenters level against the wheels to make sure they are perpendicular to the floor. It's fairly easy to then drop a plumb bob from the stem to the tire by eyeball.
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Does this fountain make my bike look to blue?

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Does this fountain make my bike look to blue?

Looks good to me!
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Re: centering stem, if you straddle bike and stand back, it's VERY easy to eyeball that the center of stem is aligned with the front tire. It works so well, it never occurred to me to bother with a plumb bob or a laser, etc....ditto for centering saddle. Just stand back and align with tope tube/front tire.

Now getting my hoods even, that does require a level. For whatever reason it's tougher for me to eyeball. Even when I think it's aligned, after tightening it's uneven. Sad!
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Does this fountain make my bike look to blue?
Yes. Next question...

At the start of this cruise we had too much food to fit in the fridge, so threw some waterproof items, including a cabbage, in a cooler with the drinks. Now my canned seltzer tastes like farts.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
Lasers? No one has ever heard of a plumb bob? SMH

Seriously, I put the bike in an old trainer and use a carpenters level against the wheels to make sure they are perpendicular to the floor. It's fairly easy to then drop a plumb bob from the stem to the tire and eyeball everything.

Or, just do like most people and take a hex wrench in your pocket for a couple rides and make adjustments till you're happy.
I like to look at the crooked stem and think to myself "that looks a little off" and swear I'll fix it when I get home. Repeat for at least a dozen rides before finally getting around to straightening the stem.
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Old 09-15-19, 04:13 PM
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Brilliant. Why didnít I think of that, re-gifting stuff I donít want.
Feel free to send your unwanted chocolate bars to me.
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First ride impression:
Rides smoother, not sure why. Slightly longer wheelbase, improvements to aluminum and crabon fork technology?

Seemed a little twitchy at first when pedaling out of the saddle but by the end of the ride my brain acclimated and seemed ok. Feels like I am riding a horse now instead of a pony. When I am on the tops it feels much more upright. It will take a while to get used to the compact bars. It seems like when I am on the drops it is about the equivalent of riding on the hoods on the old bike.
Looks like it pretty much is. Those olde bars had those downsloping ramps that put the hoods pretty low, and the stem was a bit lower on the old bike too.
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What fun is that?
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Re: centering stem, if you straddle bike and stand back, it's VERY easy to eyeball that the center of stem is aligned with the front tire. It works so well, it never occurred to me to bother with a plumb bob or a laser, etc....ditto for centering saddle. Just stand back and align with tope tube/front tire.

Now getting my hoods even, that does require a level. For whatever reason it's tougher for me to eyeball. Even when I think it's aligned, after tightening it's uneven. Sad!
I use a straight edge for brake levers. That's really the only time I use a tool to set up the ergonomics.
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But I use a level, a plumb bob, and (sometimes) a goniometer to locate my saddle.
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Except today. Before my fat bike race, I lowered my seat a little I just eye-balled it.
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But I use a level, a plumb bob, and (sometimes) a goniometer to locate my saddle.
Of course.
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Except today. Before my fat bike race, I lowered my seat a little I just eye-balled it.
I forgot my Garmin, so no Strava. Therefore, I may or may not have ridden today.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
Looks like it pretty much is. Those olde bars had those downsloping ramps that put the hoods pretty low, and the stem was a bit lower on the old bike too.
Those olde bars were crazy. @DougRNS, I think youíll end up liking the compact bars, dropping your stem progressively, and getting more benefit from the drops. At least thatís been my experience adapting to modern bikes.
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
But I use a level, a plumb bob, and (sometimes) a goniometer to locate my saddle.
I use an assometer.
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I use an assometer.
Great invention.
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After days of cold and wet, we had fantastic weather for the annual Oktoberfest ride. Total of 104 miles with a break for a couple steins, brats and sauerkraut.

And unless @Trsnrtr goes back out for another ride, I may actually sit atop the Addiction weekly leader board on Strava, for once.
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone View Post
I was really intrigued by the Tune laser pointer. I'm super OCD about my stem alignment. Looked it up, and found a not quite glowing review. In the comments below was a great idea from Carl Sechrist. Scroll down to see his photo to understand.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/11/tune...t-tool-review/
nice method, but still eyeballing involved. My OCD canít handle stem/wheel alignment that way. Probably Iíll just end up using three pieces of 1 by dimensioned lumber to build a ďcageĒ with a hole to accept the laser pointer to the top piece. And to make @Trsnrtr happy with a V-notch in the middle to secure the plumb bob from .

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Lasers? No one has ever heard of a plumb bob? SMH

Seriously, I put the bike in an old trainer and use a carpenters level against the wheels to make sure they are perpendicular to the floor. It's fairly easy to then drop a plumb bob from the stem to the tire and eyeball everything.

Or, just do like most people and take a hex wrench in your pocket for a couple rides and make adjustments till you're happy.
See above . I do a bit of woodworking so building reusable jigs and templates are always fun to me. The biggest problem I have with a plumb bob is waiting for it to stabilize and stop

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Re: centering stem, if you straddle bike and stand back, it's VERY easy to eyeball that the center of stem is aligned with the front tire. It works so well, it never occurred to me to bother with a plumb bob or a laser, etc....ditto for centering saddle. Just stand back and align with tope tube/front tire.

Now getting my hoods even, that does require a level. For whatever reason it's tougher for me to eyeball. Even when I think it's aligned, after tightening it's uneven. Sad!
i just canít. I know it is aligned, and I know deep down I did it right, but still canít let it go until I verify with instruments. Iím taking medication for it, and talking to my therapist about it regularly, we think in a year or two I will be ready to align the saddle through eyeballing.

And now youíve done it and mentioned the hoods, I think Iím going to have an emergency session first thing in the morning! Oh the horror! I donít think Iím going to be able to sleep tonight. The prospect of evening the hoods will be in my nightmares tonight. Oh boy, I feel a cold sweat coming....
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I like to look at the crooked stem and think to myself "that looks a little off" and swear I'll fix it when I get home. Repeat for at least a dozen rides before finally getting around to straightening the stem.
I resemble that comment. Except, I keep adjusting it and adjusting it and adjusting it and adjusting it and adjusting it and adjusting it...

...... until I canít take it anymore and go call my therapist.
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After days of cold and wet, we had fantastic weather for the annual Oktoberfest ride. Total of 104 miles with a break for a couple steins, brats and sauerkraut.

And unless @Trsnrtr goes back out for another ride, I may actually sit atop the Addiction weekly leader board on Strava, for once.


But isnít it a little early for Oktoberfest? Maybe you should call it Septemberfest.
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But isnít it a little early for Oktoberfest? Maybe you should call it Septemberfest.
Ask the Germans - I don't know what's going on. Actually, if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that it's a bit of collaboration with some of the other establishments so there's not too much overlap of their respective Oktoberfest activities.
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Oh, I almost forgot the one dark cloud on the ride. Early on, maybe 15 miles in, or so, we saw a bunch of people and stopped cars on the road a couple hundred yards up. One person came running towards us, waving us away and around whatever was going on. There were parks on either side of the road, so we jumped on one of the park paths that ran parallel to the road. Through the trees, we caught a brief glimpse of a small car with a broken windshield and a shirtless runner laying in blood, in the middle of the crosswalk linking the two parks. Just soul-crushing. One of my guys said that he saw the runner moving, so hopefully he'll be okay.

******g idiot drivers.
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