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Old 07-12-18, 05:33 PM
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Walmart carbon MTB

Saw what is claimed to be 100%carbon mtb at walmart for $399.00
wtf if true are we suckers?
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Carbon Steel?

Do you have a link?
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Old 07-12-18, 05:38 PM
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Carbon Steel?

Do you have a link?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-26-...reen/215471947
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Old 07-12-18, 05:40 PM
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I like the looptail.
Who hasn't wanted a carbon bike with Tourney shifters?
I bet it has steel handlebars and seatpost
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Old 07-12-18, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post




It looks like a carbon headtube in the front. But the rear stays look like steel.

One should be about 20 miles away, perhaps I'll try to find it tomorrow.
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Old 07-12-18, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post





It looks like a carbon headtube in the front. But the rear stays look like steel.

One should be about 20 miles away, perhaps I'll try to find it tomorrow.
Entire bikew frame is whatthey call carbon all carbon weight is 1200gms
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Perhaps we'll see a new style of carbon fiber hitting the market.

When I think of carbon fiber, I think of a fabric with resin binding. But, perhaps one could also simply injection mold a fiber reinforced plastic.

It should also be noted how cheaply fiberglass products can be made, and it is generally done with a random oriented mat.

So, if the raw materials for carbon fiber drop in cost, we might see falling prices. That is unless the carbon fiber guild can prop them back up.
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Old 07-13-18, 09:04 AM
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Wow: "Bicycle frame size, 26 in"

Carbon fiber and Walmart, what could go wrong?
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Old 07-13-18, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by carlosponti View Post
video review
enjoyed that. thanks for sharing. he was surprised the pedals didn't wear out after one ride?
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Old 07-13-18, 10:30 AM
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we had a walmart huffy cranbrook my nephew destroyed the pedals just riding around our streets. plastic housing didnt last long at all where the spindle went through. those look very similar plastic housing where bearing and spindles go through.
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Thanks for the video.

Only Walmart can make a 30 pound carbon fiber bike.

Thinking about this, we're seeing an influx of < $250 or so carbon fiber frames direct from China.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-5-27-5er...e/183109596749

Walmart likely can purchase in bulk, bulk ship, and acquire them much cheaper.

$100 per frame? Plus, $100 for the rest of the bike? Then a huge markup.

I suppose the question then is, why didn't Walmart do this earlier?

It is an odd market that they've chosen. 26" is very much passe, but perhaps they'e marketing to the young teenager market. Who wants to be the first kid to ride a carbon fiber bike to middle school?
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Carbon Steel?

Do you have a link?
Hahaha! Good one.
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Old 07-14-18, 06:22 AM
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It is an odd market that they've chosen. 26" is very much passe, but perhaps they'e marketing to the young teenager market.
I'm sure that's pretty much their market. Parent wants bike for their child. The new carbon model is nice and light. Buy that one. It's actually decently lightweight for the price. I'm not sure one could find a lighter weight, $400 bike at a bike shop. I was in Walmart the other day, saw the bike, and almost grabbed it just for grins. Two things would improve it: 1) A rigid fork, and 2) A freewheel hub.
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Old 07-23-18, 08:15 AM
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Kev Central put up a new video with upgraded components. he put on 27.5 wheels on it better fork and better drive train.
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So, is it getting any love here as a starting point for a build-out ??
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Old 01-26-19, 11:28 AM
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So, is it getting any love here as a starting point for a build-out ??
I've thought about buying just for the frame, and I do believe Kev Central has been pretty happy after replacing all the parts.

The use of freewheel has been too off-putting to me though. I would have to trash the wheelset and the entire drivetrain along w/it, and that's kind of a waste.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Thanks for the video.

Only Walmart can make a 30 pound carbon fiber bike.

Thinking about this, we're seeing an influx of < $250 or so carbon fiber frames direct from China.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-5-27-5er...e/183109596749

Walmart likely can purchase in bulk, bulk ship, and acquire them much cheaper.

$100 per frame? Plus, $100 for the rest of the bike? Then a huge markup.

I suppose the question then is, why didn't Walmart do this earlier?

It is an odd market that they've chosen. 26" is very much passe, but perhaps they'e marketing to the young teenager market. Who wants to be the first kid to ride a carbon fiber bike to middle school?
Although my maths is slightly different that is my viewpoint. Carbon frames are made in China for about $40-80 although that might be road bike prices, this has a little more material. Let's say its the full $80 and then the rest of the bike is pretty much bottom end components maybe another $40 so $120 in total. Bikes tend to end up at about 4x their manufacturing cost at retail but walmart may take a slightly lower margin and there you have your $400 carbon fibre mountain bike. Now you just have to find a slightly better donor bike with hydraulic disc brakes, better fork, proper freehub drivetrain and swop all the components around so the carbon bike is pretty decent and you end up with another mountain bike spare to sell on made up of the inferior components.

It's a wierd thing to beyond when you spend pretty much all the money on the frame and the rest of the bike is junk components pretty much.
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Yeah, I understand the maths. I get the "what to do with all the junk" parts thing ...

I was thinking about a CL bike with busted parts as a resale way to recycle all the "junk" and get somebody riding for $50~$100. And I end up with the frame.

I'd like frame with a straight steer tube 1-1/8" as I have donor forks already. And this one fill that requirement.

I can buy just a frame for 1/2 what the Carbon X goes for and pick and choose my components at will. Except most of those are already transitioned to tapered head sets ...

I already have a bunch of odds and ends. Looking for somewhere to hang most of it ... Thinking MTB based Gravel Bike

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Save your receipt... to get money back when you break it..
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Thief deterrent

in an effort to thwart bike thieves I put a Walmart sticker on my titanium touring bike. Itís worked like a charm, the bike has been halfway around the world and
nobody has stolen it yet
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in an effort to thwart bike thieves I put a Walmart sticker on my titanium touring bike. Itís worked like a charm, the bike has been halfway around the world and
nobody has stolen it yet
Hope no Wal-Mart bigwigs read this forum.
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Maybe it’s a carbon frame with a steel core?
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Kev has been into it with a flash light in the tubing openings - all composite of some sort ...
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in an effort to thwart bike thieves I put a Walmart sticker on my titanium touring bike. Itís worked like a charm, the bike has been halfway around the world and
nobody has stolen it yet
Brilliant, clearly you value actually riding a very decent bike more than advertising the fact you have a great bike like many bike brand snobs. You also see the opposite where someone has a cheap department store bike with very poor front shocks and they remove the stickers from the front shocks and put on Rockshox stickers or similar in order to improve the street cred of the bike. I've also seen really nice bikes where they have grunged them up with rubbish paint jobs and naff stickers and even speckled on watery brown paint in order to look like rust on aluminium parts. I've seen this at Bristol here in the UK which probably has a very high bike theft rate. Some people have just endured too many bike thefts and will try anything to put off thieves.
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