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Tektro brakes and FSA crank as good as Ultegra or Dura Ace

Old 07-07-19, 10:30 AM
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Tektro brakes and FSA crank as good as Ultegra or Dura Ace

Often bikes were or are still matched with fsa cranks and tektro brakes to drastically cut costs. One bike would be specd with 105 then they would have tektro brakes and an fsa crankset. I found that an fsa crankset would be just as good function wise as an Ultegra or dura ace crankset and the tektro rim brakes to work just as well as Shimano rim brakes.

Itís only the weight penalty really that is the negative and everyone that isnít a professional tour rider really need not to be worried about the weight of components on your bike FYI.
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Itís only the weight penalty really that is the negative and everyone that isnít a professional tour rider really need not to be worried about the weight of components on your bike FYI.
Thanks for telling me what I should or shouldn't be worried about. Now, what should I have for dinner?
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Often bikes were or are still matched with fsa cranks and tektro brakes to drastically cut costs. One bike would be specd with 105 then they would have tektro brakes and an fsa crankset. I found that an fsa crankset would be just as good function wise as an Ultegra or dura ace crankset and the tektro rim brakes to work just as well as Shimano rim brakes.

Itís only the weight penalty really that is the negative and everyone that isnít a professional tour rider really need not to be worried about the weight of components on your bike FYI.
Thanks for telling me what I need to worry about. Not sure what I would have done otherwise...
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I've never had an FSA crank that shifted as well as Ultegra.
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Often bikes were or are still matched with fsa cranks and tektro brakes to drastically cut costs. One bike would be specd with 105 then they would have tektro brakes and an fsa crankset. I found that an fsa crankset would be just as good function wise as an Ultegra or dura ace crankset and the tektro rim brakes to work just as well as Shimano rim brakes.

It’s only the weight penalty really that is the negative and everyone that isn’t a professional tour rider really need not to be worried about the weight of components on your bike FYI.
Im fairly certain this is a minority position, but if that is your experience then more money in the bank to you. I happen to disagree, as outlined in the other thread that Im sure inspired this one ;-) Cant see myself buying a mix n match bike ever again.
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No.

They are likely “good enough” but I do expect the front shifting and braking modulation to be not quite as good.

Sorry but that’s the way it is.
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My first upgrade was from Tektro brakes to 105. 105 has noticably better stopping power. I've also noticed more stiffness in my 105 crankset vs the stock Tektro.

If they're not as good as 105 5700 group, then they probably aren't better than Shimani at the higher end.
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I rode my current road bike with the stock Tektro brakes for ~5,000 miles before upgrading to 105 (5800). The 105 brakes do have better stopping power and modulation.

The Tektro brakes are probably going to go on another bang-around-town build. They're not horrible brakes, but I'm happier with something just a bit better for rolling at higher speeds.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I've never had an FSA crank that shifted as well as Ultegra.
I'm betting your bike with the FSA crank was not set up properly. Maybe your FSA crank was worn out as well. If you think about it there is nothing advanced about say a $500 dura ace crankset with the exception of it possibly being more lightweight. As long as it is aligned and not deformed, and the teeth are not worn, an fsa crank will function and shift as good as a dura ace crankset.
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For the large majority who ride bikes on mups, I agree this is true. However, some people enjoy having a high end bike and they buy accordingly. I know a guy who has a collection of team bikes with matching jerseys. Thatís his thing.
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I'm betting your bike with the FSA crank was not set up properly. Maybe your FSA crank was worn out as well. If you think about it there is nothing advanced about say a $500 dura ace crankset with the exception of it possibly being more lightweight. As long as it is aligned and not deformed, and the teeth are not worn, an fsa crank will function and shift as good as a dura ace crankset.
No one claimed a crank must be expensive to work well. A tiagra 4700 crank shifts perfectly fine and never drops the chain. FSA? ... YMMW.
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Comparing my old FSA Gossamer crankset to the Rotor 3D that replaced it is nearly impossible. Yes, they both kept the pedals attached to the bike. But the Gossamer arms had so much flex in them they might as well have been noodles.

Now is an FSA of similar pricepoint comparable to a higher-end Shimano-- like say a K-Force Light compared to Ultegra? Sure.
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I'm betting your bike with the FSA crank was not set up properly. Maybe your FSA crank was worn out as well. If you think about it there is nothing advanced about say a $500 dura ace crankset with the exception of it possibly being more lightweight. As long as it is aligned and not deformed, and the teeth are not worn, an fsa crank will function and shift as good as a dura ace crankset.
Sorry but you are wrong. Take a close look at a good Shimano crank. The teeth are shaped in such a way to improve shifting. There are also little ramps on the chainrings, which also improve shifting. It’s not just the weight.

As I said above, the performance of your crank (and brakes) is adequate. I would not say it’s bad.. But to say they are the same is simply not true.
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I found that an fsa crankset would be just as good function wise as an Ultegra or dura ace crankset
Good to know! What series of Dura Ace crank did you have?
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What amazes me is that Shimano, with all its market dominance, doesn't require at least the major manufacturers (Trek, Cannondale, etc.) to use an entire, consistent groupset (perhaps minus the cassette) if they are going to put any Shimano components on a bike.

Tektro brakes, for example, in my experience just aren't as good as the real Shimano ones, even at the 105 level. So someone perhaps less knowledgeable/interested than the typical reader here is going to get a bike the salesman says has "105" components and then think, "Gee, these Shimano 105 brakes suck. Not buying Shimano again..."

And even if the above isn't a major consideration, the few dollars saved by going with FSA or Tektro or the like is so clearly a pure money grab by the manufacturer that it pisses me off.
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What amazes me is that Shimano, with all its market dominance, doesn't require at least the major manufacturers (Trek, Cannondale, etc.) to use an entire, consistent groupset (perhaps minus the cassette) if they are going to put any Shimano components on a bike.

Tektro brakes, for example, in my experience just aren't as good as the real Shimano ones, even at the 105 level. So someone perhaps less knowledgeable/interested than the typical reader here is going to get a bike the salesman says has "105" components and then think, "Gee, these Shimano 105 brakes suck. Not buying Shimano again..."

And even if the above isn't a major consideration, the few dollars saved by going with FSA or Tektro or the like is so clearly a pure money grab by the manufacturer that it pisses me off.
It shouldnít piss you off. You and I have no clue about bike companies business plans, profit margins or costs of doing business. They have substantial competition and costs in businesses are budgeted to the fraction of a penny. Of all of these, competitive pricing is the number one factor and is the reason lower end bikes donít use full group sets. No doubt the competitors have some advantages over Shimano. Itís just business.
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Digression, but I agree with above. What may legitimately piss you off is a company saying the bike has “Ultegra Drivetrain” but not a full group. That’s misleading marketing, but the companies have to hit price points so they may skimp on brakes and cranks (and wheels/tires).
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I hope this doesn't go too far afield before OP shares his experience comparing the FSA and Dura Ace cranks. I'm always happy to save money! On the other hand, sometimes folks are just blowing hot air out their butts. That would be disappointing....
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Good to know! What series of Dura Ace crank did you have?
What shift advancement technology do you think dura ace has over say an Ultegra group or 105 group. My last full dura ace group was a 7800 crank. But Iíve tested the newest Ultegra and Iím 99% sure dura ace would be the same...and yes an fsa crankset will shift as good
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What shift advancement technology do you think dura ace has over say an Ultegra group or 105 group. My last full dura ace group was a 7800 crank. But Iíve tested the newest Ultegra and Iím 99% sure dura ace would be the same...and yes an fsa crankset will shift as good
I'm not disagreeing with you, just asking which DA you compared to your FSA. Seems you used both a 7800 crank and the FSA and were satisfied you couldn't tell a difference. No reason to doubt your experience.
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I have FSA Gossamer with 105 on one bike and Dura Ace 7800 on another. With all due respect, the FSA does, in fact, have a full set of tooth ramps and channels on the inner surface of the large chainring. There isnít any noticeable difference I shifting between the two. As to any difference in rigidity, as I weigh 150 lbs. in the dead of winter, Iím not the man to ask.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, just asking which DA you compared to your FSA. Seems you used both a 7800 crank and the FSA and were satisfied you couldn't tell a difference. No reason to doubt your experience.
Iím just saying newest Ultegra and newest dura ace would be the same shift quality wise itís more about lightweight. Same with FSA. Any difference in shift quality is psychological
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A bike just feels more special when the entire groupset matches. Why? Because it's so hard to find a stock bike like that.

Mine was *full* 5800 through and through, with one glaring exception - Colnago branded (nice touch at least) single pivot Tektro calipers. They worked perfectly fine, and I had no complaints about them, but being so close to a true full 5800 bike, I ordered the dual pivot 5800 calipers. I'm glad I did. Not entire fair being we are talking single pivot vs. dual pivot, so I won't compare the performance of the two, but I'm just speaking to the point it's so nice to just have a full (insert series here) bike. Just feels a bit more cohesive and special. My opinion, of course.
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I've never had an FSA crank that shifted as well as Ultegra.
Same here.
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A bike just feels more special when the entire groupset matches. Why? Because it's so hard to find a stock bike like that.

Mine was *full* 5800 through and through, with one glaring exception - Colnago branded (nice touch at least) single pivot Tektro calipers. They worked perfectly fine, and I had no complaints about them, but being so close to a true full 5800 bike, I ordered the dual pivot 5800 calipers. I'm glad I did. Not entire fair being we are talking single pivot vs. dual pivot, so I won't compare the performance of the two, but I'm just speaking to the point it's so nice to just have a full (insert series here) bike. Just feels a bit more cohesive and special. My opinion, of course.
True I would personally rather have a Shimano crankset that matches my shifters. I do have a Ultegra crankset on my current bike. If it came with a fsa crankset I would change it out to Ultegra just because, even though I know it will shift and function the same as an fsa crankset. Just the fact that it matches and possibly looks better on the bike gives me a psychological boost even though Gerraint Thomas would still beat the whole tdf field with a fsa gossamer crankset.
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