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Old 08-27-19, 11:41 AM
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Buying from UK?

I've been away for quite some tie, but I've noticed one can no longer purchase certain items from Ribble, etc.? When & why did this happen?

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Old 08-27-19, 12:03 PM
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Manufacturer restrictions on sales to the U.S.

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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Manufacturer restrictions on sales to the U.S.

Who started this ball rolling?
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Old 08-27-19, 12:11 PM
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Who started this ball rolling?
I have no idea. I don't buy things from the U.K.
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Originally Posted by SundayNiagara View Post
Who started this ball rolling?
LBS from the US
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Originally Posted by SundayNiagara View Post
Who started this ball rolling?
SRAM with their implementation of a ban a handful of years ago?
Local shops that were finally able to convince Shimano to restrict shipping?
And more.

Like much in a global economy, there isnt just 1 singular answer.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
SRAM with their implementation of a ban a handful of years ago?
Local shops that were finally able to convince Shimano to restrict shipping?
And more.

Like much in a global economy, there isnt just 1 singular answer.
I remember SRAM doing this.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
LBS from the US
More like LBS distributors like QBP.

My own LBS doesn't care if you buy a group from them, they make next to money on the sale--and the consumer can usually find it cheaper elsewhere and get it faster. LBSes are too local and small to have any lobbying power against SRAM/Campag/Shimano/etc. What is more, if the consumer bails on a group order---the LBS is then stuck holding parts they probably won't be able to sell.
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It's not the end of the world.
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Either way, I don’t really care who’s responsible.

Now that the pricing has changed, LBSs have a fair chance at selling components again.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
Either way, I don’t really care who’s responsible.

Now that the pricing has changed, LBSs have a fair chance at selling components again.
Not really. Virtually no one builds bikes from parts. Bikes are overwhelmingly assemblies pre-compiled and shipped in boxes for finish-assembly at what is mostly a dealership. They won't sell more product. Certainly not enough to make a dent on a balance sheet. What do you wager an LBS orders groups versus sells a floor-bike? 1-in-10? 1-in-50? 1-in-100?

LBSes aren't going to "win". Consumers won't either. I'm not sure who actually does. I suppose whomever denies warranty claims at Shimano/Campagnolo/SRAM-USA because consumers need RMA on parts they bought out of country.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
Not really. Virtually no one builds bikes from parts. Bikes are overwhelmingly assemblies pre-compiled and shipped in boxes for finish-assembly at what is mostly a dealership. They won't sell more product. Certainly not enough to make a dent on a balance sheet. What do you wager an LBS orders groups versus sells a floor-bike? 1-in-10? 1-in-50? 1-in-100?

LBSes aren't going to "win". Consumers won't either. I'm not sure who actually does. I suppose whomever denies warranty claims at Shimano/Campagnolo/SRAM-USA because consumers need RMA on parts they bought out of country.
You’re probably right. After 15+ years of getting screwed over by the big 3 component manufacturers, there’s probably nothing that can help them now.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Manufacturer restrictions on sales to the U.S.

That's definitely the single largest reason.
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That's definitely the single largest reason.
I wish there was a dislike button.
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I wish there was a dislike button.
The manufacturers were screwing US bike shops for decades, now they stopped, and you are angry with who!
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The manufacturers were screwing US bike shops for decades, now they stopped, and you are angry with who!
As my late used car salesman friend used to say: "Its ALWAYS the price."
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Originally Posted by SundayNiagara View Post
As my late used car salesman friend used to say: "Its ALWAYS the price."
True.

This is the price now.

You pay the price, or you don’t get the goods.

for 15+ years, the LBS got screwed.

Now you might have to pay retail.

#dealwithit
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The manufacturers were screwing US bike shops for decades, now they stopped, and you are angry with who!
The preference of course would have been that the manufacturers fix their stoopid distribution model, so that the the US retailers could sell at the same price levels as the UK dealers and make the same margin as evidently makes them satisfied.
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The last time that I bought a bike in an LBS was back in the 90's. After that, every bike I've owned was built from with the frame of my choice and Campy parts. You can still get Campy parts form Euro sources, but the prices are no longer that much cheaper, if you find the right online seller.
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Originally Posted by SundayNiagara View Post
I've been away for quite some tie, but I've noticed one can no longer purchase certain items from Ribble, etc.? When & why did this happen?

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What exactly cant be bought now?

Earlier this year i bought wheelset, 5800 groupset etc.
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What exactly cant be bought now?

Earlier this year i bought wheelset, 5800 groupset etc.
Go look now.
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Sigh ... I already did

Originally Posted by SundayNiagara View Post
Go look now.
I already did, and everything I bought from Merlins (5800 groups, Fulcrum wheels, 7000 RD, Shimano wheelset etc.) I can still add to my cart and get all the way to putting in my credit card.

If your going to start these threads then add in some supporting detail!
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I already did, and everything I bought from Merlins (5800 groups, Fulcrum wheels, 7000 RD, Shimano wheelset etc.) I can still add to my cart and get all the way to putting in my credit card.

If your going to start these threads then add in some supporting detail!
Look at Dura Ace.
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Merlin still sells Shimano, my r8020 groupset will be here today (purchased on Saturday!), best price I could find anywhere online or in person. I love my LBS, have bought a bike from them and will continue to send plenty of business their way, but I also have a budget.
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