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Old 07-23-08, 01:27 PM
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Used a degreaser I have, used a fine jet of water to help the old grease out. (sure I'll be ridiculed for that, but I've done it for a long time, even with my BMX bike and they never rusted/failed) and yes, I greased them before I put them back.
gave em a fast rinse in some weak rubbing alcohol to make sure it would dry up, and then they spent about 20 mins in the GA sun.
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Originally Posted by Cheeto
Used a degreaser I have, used a fine jet of water to help the old grease out. (sure I'll be ridiculed for that, but I've done it for a long time, even with my BMX bike and they never rusted/failed) and yes, I greased them before I put them back.
gave em a fast rinse in some weak rubbing alcohol to make sure it would dry up, and then they spent about 20 mins in the GA sun.
How did you re-grease a sealed cartridge bearing?
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Old 07-23-08, 01:39 PM
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very carefully, I have this thin runny grease crap.
Prob, not the best, but I was able to get it inside. (theres a small gap)
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Prepare yourself for RUSTY BALLS
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Ive never had a bearing rust on me before.
My BMX bike used to go swimming.
(rode along an ATV trail in alaska that went into the lake)
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Old 07-23-08, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xcracer13
That way next time he endos it can cut a nice chunk out of his inner thighs or some place worse
Maybe chest or some of the dangly bits but not likely. The edge on a stem is pretty dull and, if installed properly, the sharp parts of the fork are buried pretty deep in the stem.
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Glad to hear you finally figured that out but that water in the bearings thing kinda scares me.

I don't understand how it got so bad if it was sealed though. Perhaps some of you who know more about it than I will educate me?
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Old 07-23-08, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
Glad to hear you finally figured that out but that water in the bearings thing kinda scares me.

I don't understand how it got so bad if it was sealed though. Perhaps some of you who know more about it than I will educate me?
Some of them aren't really sealed all that well, dirty water can still get in. More of a shield than a seal...
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Old 07-23-08, 03:33 PM
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Maybe it is installed wrong.
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Old 07-23-08, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Maybe chest or some of the dangly bits but not likely. The edge on a stem is pretty dull and, if installed properly, the sharp parts of the fork are buried pretty deep in the stem.
Handle bar ends are pretty dull also.....
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Old 07-23-08, 03:46 PM
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This thread has been fun.
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
This thread has been fun.
It's sorta become a never ending saga. The plot keeps thickening.
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Originally Posted by rydaddy
It's sorta become a never ending saga. The plot keeps thickening.
Good author, too.
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I was afraid to open this. Now I know why. It was almost too painful to skim; kudos to anyone who actually read it all. And to all of you who patiently gave sound advice only to be ignored, hats off to you all.
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Originally Posted by dminor
I was afraid to open this. Now I know why. It was almost too painful to skim; kudos to anyone who actually read it all. And to all of you who patiently gave sound advice only to be ignored, hats off to you all.
Speaking from experience, it would have been easier had you been there in its infancy.
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^^ I ignored it at first because I thought, "someone will straighten him out quickly and he'll be on his way." Silly me.
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Originally Posted by dminor
^^ I ignored it at first because I thought, "someone will straighten him out quickly and he'll be on his way." Silly me.
Four years and you still thought that?

Shame.
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Originally Posted by chelboed
How did you re-grease a sealed cartridge bearing?
actually pretty easy on most sealed bearings. use a thin pick or blade to pry up the seal -carefully, so as to not deform it - you'll be re-installing it. clean out the old gunk. instill new gunk. pop bearing seal back into place. wipe off the excess gunk that has been spooged out fromhaving the seal popped back in place. done.
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The funny thing is he started a thread about a new fork and headset then this one shows up.Now he's got his feelings all hurt becuse evryone made the obvious connection.
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Originally Posted by scrublover
actually pretty easy on most sealed bearings. use a thin pick or blade to pry up the seal -carefully, so as to not deform it - you'll be re-installing it. clean out the old gunk. instill new gunk. pop bearing seal back into place. wipe off the excess gunk that has been spooged out fromhaving the seal popped back in place. done.
I'm not saying it's impossible. I used to do that with skateboard bearings as well. I'm just saying that you have to be pretty mechanically inclined and precise to do it. Given the track record, I don't put Cheeto in either one of those categories. (no offense Cheeto...I hope you prove me wrong)

Heck, he said his fork was "too soft" and thought maybe he needed to add oil to make it firmer. Finally figured out what preload was and how to increase it....then asked "what is damping?"

Lord help him if he finds out that you can actually take springs out and replace them with stiffer/lighter ones to tune the ride height to ones liking.
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Originally Posted by kramnnim
Some of them aren't really sealed all that well, dirty water can still get in. More of a shield than a seal...
Oh okay, thanks.
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maybe he does have the wrong crown race for his headset like SVR stated in the other thread, it does look like it's too far apart.

it may be a "semi cartridge" headset where it's not sealed just bearings behind a sleeve.
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Old 07-24-08, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtPedalerB
maybe he does have the wrong crown race for his headset
+1 possibility. Maybe the guy left the old race on the fork.
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WD40 would have been the right choice for getting the water out of that bearing. Follow that up with the grease (WD40 isn't a good lubricant) and I think you'd have avoided your rusty balls. Time will tell if your fix lasts. Best bet I think would have been an overnight soak in degreaser, followed by an overnight alcohol soak to get the degreaser out, then bake in an oven (assuming there's no parts in the bearing sensitive to the temperature) to get the alcohol out, then grease.

But if there was a way to disassemble the bearing for better access that's a better choice. Better still is to replace the bearings.

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