Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Touring
Reload this Page >

Vintage/Classic Touring Bike

Search
Notices
Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

Vintage/Classic Touring Bike

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-27-18, 07:14 PM
  #1  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Vintage/Classic Touring Bike

I am looking into buying a vintage/touring bike for my daily commute. Which ones are good?
Hatchet is offline  
Old 02-27-18, 07:16 PM
  #2  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,435

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times in 2,079 Posts
Originally Posted by Hatchet
I am looking into buying a vintage/touring bike for my daily commute. Which ones are good?
Probably the wrong forum. You should try C&V. A vintage touring bike makes a great commuter, that's what I use my 1982 Trek 720 for. But there are plenty of other great, older touring bikes.

Here is a good thread,

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ing-bikes.html

Last edited by bikemig; 02-27-18 at 07:20 PM.
bikemig is offline  
Old 02-27-18, 08:54 PM
  #3  
Brian25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 720

Bikes: Road, mountain and track bikes and tandems.

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 282 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
One that you like.
Brian25 is offline  
Old 02-27-18, 09:17 PM
  #4  
DropBarFan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,150

Bikes: 2013 Surly Disc Trucker, 2004 Novara Randonee , old fixie , etc

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 671 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times in 43 Posts
There's a ton of vintage makes/models that would work. In the 70's/80's many of the club-level racing bikes had at least single fork eyelets so one can mount fenders & a light-duty rack. Might be more fun & quick for commuting than a heavier touring bike.
DropBarFan is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 08:06 AM
  #5  
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit/AA
Posts: 8,207

Bikes: 2016 Novara Mazama

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3640 Post(s)
Liked 81 Times in 51 Posts
When buying a C&V bike, it is important to not get too held up on buying a specific make/model. They aren't sold in stores one can just walk into and order what one wants. Figure out what you want in a bike in generalities, then go with whatever pops up in your size and price range.

As a generality:
Butted, lugged steel tubing
Non-cottered crank
Not French (until the mid-80s, French bikes used their own threading standards that makes parts harder to find than needs be for a commuter)
Alloy rims
Skip the plastic Simplex derailleurs
Eyelets for fender/rack mounting
jefnvk is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 08:35 AM
  #6  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,435

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times in 2,079 Posts
Originally Posted by jefnvk
When buying a C&V bike, it is important to not get too held up on buying a specific make/model. They aren't sold in stores one can just walk into and order what one wants. Figure out what you want in a bike in generalities, then go with whatever pops up in your size and price range.

As a generality:
Butted, lugged steel tubing
Non-cottered crank
Not French (until the mid-80s, French bikes used their own threading standards that makes parts harder to find than needs be for a commuter)
Alloy rims
Skip the plastic Simplex derailleurs
Eyelets for fender/rack mounting
I hear you on French bikes being a pain (I own 3, a Peugeot UE 8, a Peugeot PR 10, and a Mercier 300) but the parts situation is not that dire. Bottom brackets can be found pretty inexpensively on Amazon ($12); headsets are available; 22.2 stems can be modified to work, seatposts are a non-issue, and so on.

Plus some of the really ubiquitous French bikes (the Peugeot UO 8, 9, 10, 14 series) can make a fine commuter/touring bike since they have plenty of room for fat tires and fenders and a nice long wheelbase and chainstays.

I'm not suggesting that the OP buy a French bike. I'm just saying that maybe the OP shouldn't kick the right French bike out of bed if it shows up at the right price,
bikemig is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 08:41 AM
  #7  
Tourist in MSN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 11,203

Bikes: 1961 Ideor, 1966 Perfekt 3 Speed AB Hub, 1994 Bridgestone MB-6, 2006 Airnimal Joey, 2009 Thorn Sherpa, 2013 Thorn Nomad MkII, 2015 VO Pass Hunter, 2017 Lynskey Backroad, 2017 Raleigh Gran Prix, 1980s Bianchi Mixte on a trainer. Others are now gone.

Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3459 Post(s)
Liked 1,465 Times in 1,143 Posts
Decades ago there were not a lot of dedicated touring bikes sold, so the supply is limited. It is only in the past decade or so that touring bikes have become cool to own.

Also, you did not define vintage. That could mean new enough for indexed shifting, but old enough for a lugged frame. Or it could mean older, such as having friction down tube shifters. Think about what you really want. I personally would have no desire to commute or tour on a bike with downtube friction shifters and only 5 or 6 speeds on a freewheel in back. I already have one of those and rarely ride it.
Tourist in MSN is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 08:51 AM
  #8  
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit/AA
Posts: 8,207

Bikes: 2016 Novara Mazama

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3640 Post(s)
Liked 81 Times in 51 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig
I'm not suggesting that the OP buy a French bike. I'm just saying that maybe the OP shouldn't kick the right French bike out of bed if it shows up at the right price,
Maybe I just want them to leave the fine French bikes for me. I still need a proper one, my Peugeot was too new to be truly French

But yeah, my comment was reserved more for a bike being used as a commuter. Bikes are pretty durable, but if one relies on that bike for transit, the difference between a part that unexpectedly broke being replaced now at the LBS versus a few days when your Amazon order comes in could be huge.
jefnvk is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 11:20 AM
  #9  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by jefnvk
When buying a C&V bike, it is important to not get too held up on buying a specific make/model. They aren't sold in stores one can just walk into and order what one wants. Figure out what you want in a bike in generalities, then go with whatever pops up in your size and price range.

As a generality:
Butted, lugged steel tubing
Non-cottered crank
Not French (until the mid-80s, French bikes used their own threading standards that makes parts harder to find than needs be for a commuter)
Alloy rims
Skip the plastic Simplex derailleurs
Eyelets for fender/rack mounting
Yes, all good points. This is how I am approaching it - making a list of what I want and seeing what is out there.
Hatchet is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 11:21 AM
  #10  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Brian25
One that you like.
Hatchet is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 11:22 AM
  #11  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig
Probably the wrong forum. You should try C&V. A vintage touring bike makes a great commuter, that's what I use my 1982 Trek 720 for. But there are plenty of other great, older touring bikes.

Here is a good thread,

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ing-bikes.html
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Hatchet is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 11:42 AM
  #12  
fietsbob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,598

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,355 Times in 862 Posts
get one you can afford to lose from theft, since you are commuting on it.


Otherwise, Mercian is still being made in UK, Classic lugs, ..







...

Last edited by fietsbob; 03-03-18 at 04:08 PM.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 02-28-18, 10:48 PM
  #13  
DropBarFan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,150

Bikes: 2013 Surly Disc Trucker, 2004 Novara Randonee , old fixie , etc

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 671 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times in 43 Posts
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
Decades ago there were not a lot of dedicated touring bikes sold, so the supply is limited. It is only in the past decade or so that touring bikes have become cool to own.

Also, you did not define vintage. That could mean new enough for indexed shifting, but old enough for a lugged frame. Or it could mean older, such as having friction down tube shifters. Think about what you really want. I personally would have no desire to commute or tour on a bike with downtube friction shifters and only 5 or 6 speeds on a freewheel in back. I already have one of those and rarely ride it.

Yeah, I never saw many touring bikes in shops, then or now. Sometimes even REI doesn't have a tourer on the floor.

Vintage MTBs can be nice economical commuters, many have a very smooth ride. Some have double-eyelets front & back for racks & fenders. For Buffalo a vintage MTB has room for wide winter (even studded) tires.
DropBarFan is offline  
Old 03-02-18, 11:41 PM
  #14  
AustinFitz
Senior Member
 
AustinFitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Bush, Louisiana
Posts: 568

Bikes: 1984 Centurion Elite GT 15, 1985 Centurion Ironman Dave Scott, 1983 Diamond Back Ridge Runner, 1985 Mongoose ATB, 1987 Ross Centaur, 1986 Raleigh Marathon

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 190 Post(s)
Liked 76 Times in 39 Posts
+1 Vintage mountain bikes do make pretty good tourers, and they're usually pretty easy to find. Actual vintage touring bikes do occasionally pop up for reasonable prices too, and if you don't mind shipping eBay is a great place to find them.

I got lucky and found this 1984 Centurion Elite GT 15 locally for next to nothing. Being a bike mechanic I completely restored it myself. That definitely keeps build costs down. Still need to add fenders and a lighting system, but it's coming along!

AustinFitz is offline  
Old 03-03-18, 11:34 AM
  #15  
Road Fan
Senior Member
 
Road Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 16,874

Bikes: 1980 Masi, 1984 Mondonico, 1984 Trek 610, 1980 Woodrup Giro, 2005 Mondonico Futura Leggera ELOS, 1967 PX10E, 1971 Peugeot UO-8

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1856 Post(s)
Liked 664 Times in 506 Posts
Good advice in general, but some good members of the clan can at least be identified:

Trek 720 up to 1985
Trek 520
Trek 620
Most Treks 1981 and before
Raleigh International
Raleigh Competition
Woodrup Giro
Fuji America (most variations)
Nishiki (ask more questions at C&V)
Mercian, some models focused on touring, but these and the Woodrups are actually quite high-end frames

there are quite a lot of makes and models to look at.

As a commuter, a lot of early '70s entry-level bikes are very good targets:

Peugeot UO-8 and a handful of other French brands which made very similar bikes
Raleigh Grand Prix
Raleigh Super Course
Dawes Galaxy
Plain steel tube bikes from Atala, Bottecchia, Fiorelli
Road Fan is offline  
Old 03-03-18, 12:35 PM
  #16  
revcp 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Posts: 1,257

Bikes: 2017 Salsa Carbon Mukluk frame built with XT, 2018 Kona Rove NRB build with Sram Apex 1,2008 Salsa El Mariachi, 1986 Centurion Ironman

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 286 Post(s)
Liked 100 Times in 65 Posts
Miyata from the 1980s

1000 (expensive), 610/15 (less expensive), 210 (inexpensive).
revcp is offline  
Old 03-04-18, 08:51 PM
  #17  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by AustinFitz
+1 Vintage mountain bikes do make pretty good tourers, and they're usually pretty easy to find. Actual vintage touring bikes do occasionally pop up for reasonable prices too, and if you don't mind shipping eBay is a great place to find them.

I got lucky and found this 1984 Centurion Elite GT 15 locally for next to nothing. Being a bike mechanic I completely restored it myself. That definitely keeps build costs down. Still need to add fenders and a lighting system, but it's coming along!

Thanks for sharing the pic - very nice!
Hatchet is offline  
Old 03-04-18, 08:53 PM
  #18  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by DropBarFan
Yeah, I never saw many touring bikes in shops, then or now. Sometimes even REI doesn't have a tourer on the floor.

Vintage MTBs can be nice economical commuters, many have a very smooth ride. Some have double-eyelets front & back for racks & fenders. For Buffalo a vintage MTB has room for wide winter (even studded) tires.
Funny you should mention that - I have an old MTB I've overhauled that I am considering building up as my winter commuter, using studded tires.
Hatchet is offline  
Old 03-04-18, 08:55 PM
  #19  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Road Fan
Good advice in general, but some good members of the clan can at least be identified:

Trek 720 up to 1985
Trek 520
Trek 620
Most Treks 1981 and before
Raleigh International
Raleigh Competition
Woodrup Giro
Fuji America (most variations)
Nishiki (ask more questions at C&V)
Mercian, some models focused on touring, but these and the Woodrups are actually quite high-end frames

there are quite a lot of makes and models to look at.

As a commuter, a lot of early '70s entry-level bikes are very good targets:

Peugeot UO-8 and a handful of other French brands which made very similar bikes
Raleigh Grand Prix
Raleigh Super Course
Dawes Galaxy
Plain steel tube bikes from Atala, Bottecchia, Fiorelli
Thanks! This is an awesome list and just what I was hoping to get. Now I have a targeted list of bikes to search for, research and consider.
Hatchet is offline  
Old 03-05-18, 05:09 AM
  #20  
Road Fan
Senior Member
 
Road Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 16,874

Bikes: 1980 Masi, 1984 Mondonico, 1984 Trek 610, 1980 Woodrup Giro, 2005 Mondonico Futura Leggera ELOS, 1967 PX10E, 1971 Peugeot UO-8

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1856 Post(s)
Liked 664 Times in 506 Posts
Originally Posted by Hatchet
Thanks! This is an awesome list and just what I was hoping to get. Now I have a targeted list of bikes to search for, research and consider.
Don’t consider it complete, because it is anything but!

Just in generic terms, I’d say also research Miyata, Centurion, and post-Chicago steel Schwinns.

And keep an open mind, I’m certain there are more.
Road Fan is offline  
Old 03-05-18, 05:36 AM
  #21  
Trakhak
Senior Member
 
Trakhak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 5,371
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2482 Post(s)
Liked 2,952 Times in 1,677 Posts
Cannondale sold a good number of touring bikes in the 1980s. Given that a Cannondale touring bike would be light and not prone to rust issues, one of those would be an great find.
Trakhak is offline  
Old 03-05-18, 07:28 AM
  #22  
J.Higgins 
2-Wheeled Fool
 
J.Higgins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,346

Bikes: Surly Ogre, Brompton

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1385 Post(s)
Liked 677 Times in 457 Posts
The older Trek 900-series, and the equivalent Gary Fisher mountain bikes are extremely touring conversion-friendly. Here's a couple of my latest:





The 930 is my wife's, but the Gary Fisher is for sale.
J.Higgins is offline  
Old 03-05-18, 07:36 AM
  #23  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,435

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times in 2,079 Posts
Originally Posted by Hatchet
Funny you should mention that - I have an old MTB I've overhauled that I am considering building up as my winter commuter, using studded tires.
They make terrific winter commuters and all around bikes. Here is my build,

https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting...ter-build.html
bikemig is offline  
Old 03-06-18, 07:13 AM
  #24  
Hatchet
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by NoControl
The older Trek 900-series, and the equivalent Gary Fisher mountain bikes are extremely touring conversion-friendly. Here's a couple of my latest:





The 930 is my wife's, but the Gary Fisher is for sale.
Thanks for the info on the Gary Fisher possibility. What's your opinion of this one? Is $80 a fair price?
https://buffalo.craigslist.org/bik/d...520308937.html
Hatchet is offline  
Old 03-06-18, 09:19 AM
  #25  
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit/AA
Posts: 8,207

Bikes: 2016 Novara Mazama

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3640 Post(s)
Liked 81 Times in 51 Posts
Originally Posted by Hatchet
Thanks for the info on the Gary Fisher possibility. What's your opinion of this one? Is $80 a fair price?
https://buffalo.craigslist.org/bik/d...520308937.html
Dunno what things generally go for in your area, but if it is in serviceable shape and fits I'd pay $80 for it in Detroit.
jefnvk is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.