New Bike - Canyon vs Trek vs Specialized vs Giant
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I haven't had the issues you're describing with the FutureShock, not that I'm doubting what you experienced. I frankly wouldn't consider a Roubaix if I didn't have the ability to lock it out. On my S-works, it has a compression damping adjustment. I leave it locked out unless I know I'm hitting some big bumps. It does work very well on bumps, however, and eliminates a lot of the shock that would normally go up through the handlebars. I certainly don't feel any rebound bouncing, though. That seems odd to me.
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Had to make a smilar choice a few weeks ago. I also asked here in forums. Most people recommended to buy a used bike since I'm newbie. I was between Roubaix Tiagra 2020, Defy advanced ultegra 2019 and roubaix 105 2019. Bought a used defy 2015 with ultegra. It is 9,2 kg not really lightweight but like most people said the weight doesn't hold me back. So when it comes to weight I don't think the weight between tiagra and 105 would change anything unless you are a pro. The only problem I see is that if you want to upgrade it in future you will need to upgrade the whole groupset for tiagra but you can upgrade part by part for 105 and even tho i tryed tiagra and can't tell the difference, experianced users always say 105 is the entry of high end level products. I would try to buy something with 105 if it fits unless you are buying an s-works frame or top level frame from other brands.
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get the 105 group set
xmas 2019 I purchased Redux 2 urban/hybrid bike. I loved it so much I wanted to by 2nd
set of wheels and put faster tires on it. There's like 100000's of options for 11spd 105
group set. Not so much on what I had on my bike. I sold it after only owning it a few months.
My next bike I made sure it had 105 group set.
xmas 2019 I purchased Redux 2 urban/hybrid bike. I loved it so much I wanted to by 2nd
set of wheels and put faster tires on it. There's like 100000's of options for 11spd 105
group set. Not so much on what I had on my bike. I sold it after only owning it a few months.
My next bike I made sure it had 105 group set.
The thing with 105 vs Tiagra right now is that 105 is 11-speed and compatible with other 11-speed parts from 105, Ultegra, and Dura-Ace. Current Tiagra is 10-speed, so it's not compatible, and is also a different 10-speed from older 10-speed, so even older 10-speed parts are not compatible. That sort of situation makes me uneasy.
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In my market it's pretty hard to find a 2-4 year old used road bike at the moment. I would have to buy a used bike on the internet without testing it. And thats a no-no for me. But thanks for your input
TCR Advanced Pro (Bike i tested) - Bike in price range is the 2021 pro compact (not in stores atm; as far as I know)
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at the moment I am leaning towards Canyon Endurace CF SL.
has basicly everything on paper that I want. But I cant test it.
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Since I am pretty good with geometry charts and am willing to spend $20-$30 for a new stem if needed (and have a bunch in boxes already) I'd jump all over that Canyon. Hydro discs and 105 for under $2 grand?
But if I had the cash, I might opt for the Cervelo that @phrantic09 mentioned .... (sorry, just stirring things up, but I love my Cervelo clone ... )
But if I had the cash, I might opt for the Cervelo that @phrantic09 mentioned .... (sorry, just stirring things up, but I love my Cervelo clone ... )
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I'd still get the Defy 2 (perhaps a 2019 instead of a 20-21?) if you can find it on sale or the 3.
Tiagra is a very good groupset. 105 is clearly better (and 11 speed), but not worth breaking your piggy bank. If you can afford it, you will not regret paying the extra $ for 105 on the long run.
Tiagra is a very good groupset. 105 is clearly better (and 11 speed), but not worth breaking your piggy bank. If you can afford it, you will not regret paying the extra $ for 105 on the long run.
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I would trust their sizing tool. I think it’s pretty accurate. I have a size 52 Roubaix and ended up with an XS Ultimate. You can always compare key frame dimensions to get additional certainty.
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I have a rim brake ALR5. It will take a 30mm tyre (measured). I presume the disc version would take at least that size too.
It is an excellent bike and I ride it often even though I also have some much more expensive bikes as well.
Upgrade to some carbon wheels was all I changed,
It is an excellent bike and I ride it often even though I also have some much more expensive bikes as well.
Upgrade to some carbon wheels was all I changed,
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The deal on the R3 from Excel is unbeatable. What I am about to say is not for everybody, but you can come so far out ahead by assembling your own. It really is not that hard to do.
You can get an Emonda SL frame for $999, full Ultegra build kit for $623 and a really nice set of carbon wheels with CX Ray spokes and DT 350 hubs for $639. That leaves roughly $250 for bars, stem, tires, tape, saddle, etc, etc. Buying take-off bars and stems off the forums or ebay is incredibly cheap. Even if it took you an extra month to get all the parts together it will be worth it in the long run.
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...Code=black_red
https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano...er-113147.html
https://www.wheelsfar.com/38mm-x-25m...-cm-25u-4.html
You can get an Emonda SL frame for $999, full Ultegra build kit for $623 and a really nice set of carbon wheels with CX Ray spokes and DT 350 hubs for $639. That leaves roughly $250 for bars, stem, tires, tape, saddle, etc, etc. Buying take-off bars and stems off the forums or ebay is incredibly cheap. Even if it took you an extra month to get all the parts together it will be worth it in the long run.
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...Code=black_red
https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano...er-113147.html
https://www.wheelsfar.com/38mm-x-25m...-cm-25u-4.html
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The deal on the R3 from Excel is unbeatable. What I am about to say is not for everybody, but you can come so far out ahead by assembling your own. It really is not that hard to do.
You can get an Emonda SL frame for $999, full Ultegra build kit for $623 and a really nice set of carbon wheels with CX Ray spokes and DT 350 hubs for $639. That leaves roughly $250 for bars, stem, tires, tape, saddle, etc, etc. Buying take-off bars and stems off the forums or ebay is incredibly cheap. Even if it took you an extra month to get all the parts together it will be worth it in the long run.
You can get an Emonda SL frame for $999, full Ultegra build kit for $623 and a really nice set of carbon wheels with CX Ray spokes and DT 350 hubs for $639. That leaves roughly $250 for bars, stem, tires, tape, saddle, etc, etc. Buying take-off bars and stems off the forums or ebay is incredibly cheap. Even if it took you an extra month to get all the parts together it will be worth it in the long run.
I have no experience in bike building. I think my LBS would have fun to build one with me. But I dont know what fits. For computerbuilding pcpartpicker can help you to check the compatibility. But for bikes?
Carbon, light, a good combination of comfort and speed. no hills. 28mm tires. 56 frame.
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The way I do that it's not cheaper. It's incomparably better and more durable, however.
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Of course you can have a much better gaming computer building it yourself with that fancy graphics card. You car can handle better ( I have 3k ohlins coil overs on my car ). You can have a faster, lighter bike etc...
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I’ll make it more confusing. Trek CrossTrek ALR5. 105 and wide tires. Plus later
get a second wheel set for speed. It will also accept racks etc.
get a second wheel set for speed. It will also accept racks etc.
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I thought about that, because I build computer for myself, friends and neighbours. You get the parts you want and it's mostly better qualtiy and cheaper than the mass builds from HP, Dell, ...
I have no experience in bike building. I think my LBS would have fun to build one with me. But I dont know what fits. For computerbuilding pcpartpicker can help you to check the compatibility. But for bikes?
Carbon, light, a good combination of comfort and speed. no hills. 28mm tires. 56 frame.
I have no experience in bike building. I think my LBS would have fun to build one with me. But I dont know what fits. For computerbuilding pcpartpicker can help you to check the compatibility. But for bikes?
Carbon, light, a good combination of comfort and speed. no hills. 28mm tires. 56 frame.
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Assembly from Canyon is likely to have you needing a 4, 5 & 6mm Allen keys and a 15mm pedal wrench. If the stem is not on the steerer tube, you will want a torque wrench and 5mm Allen key for it, to properly tension the stem bolts. It’s a carbon steerer tube usually and is sensitive to over-tightening,
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Have you looked at Scott Addict Disc 20? Endurance full carbon, 105, 30c tires, 8.5kg, $2099. Looks like a great value.
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Thanks for the input.
Just ordered the Canyon Endurace with 105.
I checked with Canyon. They have still the same return policy.
Just ordered the Canyon Endurace with 105.
I checked with Canyon. They have still the same return policy.
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The deal on the R3 from Excel is unbeatable. What I am about to say is not for everybody, but you can come so far out ahead by assembling your own. It really is not that hard to do.
You can get an Emonda SL frame for $999, full Ultegra build kit for $623 and a really nice set of carbon wheels with CX Ray spokes and DT 350 hubs for $639. That leaves roughly $250 for bars, stem, tires, tape, saddle, etc, etc. Buying take-off bars and stems off the forums or ebay is incredibly cheap. Even if it took you an extra month to get all the parts together it will be worth it in the long run.
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...Code=black_red
https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano...er-113147.html
https://www.wheelsfar.com/38mm-x-25m...-cm-25u-4.html
You can get an Emonda SL frame for $999, full Ultegra build kit for $623 and a really nice set of carbon wheels with CX Ray spokes and DT 350 hubs for $639. That leaves roughly $250 for bars, stem, tires, tape, saddle, etc, etc. Buying take-off bars and stems off the forums or ebay is incredibly cheap. Even if it took you an extra month to get all the parts together it will be worth it in the long run.
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...Code=black_red
https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano...er-113147.html
https://www.wheelsfar.com/38mm-x-25m...-cm-25u-4.html
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Congrats on the order, that'll be a nice bike
Take a few pics of the unboxing for yourself, just in case you need to send it back for a different size it'll be helpful to have a record of how it all fits in the box
I had my canyon ready to ride in well under an hour and that was working slow and goofing around
Take a few pics of the unboxing for yourself, just in case you need to send it back for a different size it'll be helpful to have a record of how it all fits in the box
I had my canyon ready to ride in well under an hour and that was working slow and goofing around
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building bikes is really not that hard. Youtube and not being in a rush will most likely lead to success. You do need some tools though.
Coincidentally, I just saw a couple of bike building videos on Youtube. I also build my own PCs even though I am not mechanically gifted and it works, but with a bike? That's something where if you mess up it can cause you to crash. Not to mention, the equipment needed, when the screwed in the bottom bracket, they used special tools (or maybe not, but at least not something vast majority of people have at home).
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