Go Back  Bike Forums > The Lounge > Foo
Reload this Page >

Frontline - In the Age of AI

Notices
Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

Frontline - In the Age of AI

Old 11-06-19, 12:29 PM
  #1  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
Thread Starter
 
FiftySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 973

Bikes: Norco CityGlide, Schwinn Willy

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 231 Posts
Frontline - In the Age of AI

I saw this episode of Frontline on PBS last night about AI in general. Worth a watch if you have the time.

"FRONTLINE investigates the promise and perils of artificial intelligence, from fears about work and privacy to rivalry between the U.S. and China. The documentary traces a new industrial revolution that will reshape and disrupt our lives, our jobs and our world, and allow the emergence of the surveillance society."

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/f...the-age-of-ai/

Last edited by FiftySix; 11-06-19 at 01:26 PM.
FiftySix is offline  
Old 11-06-19, 06:54 PM
  #2  
Zinger
Trek 500 Kid
 
Zinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,554

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2299 Post(s)
Liked 38 Times in 33 Posts
Just something noticed about some of Frontline lately.

Sounding partisan in the least doesn't lean towards keeping any appearance of objectivity but I guess that's the contemporary approach.

Not that journalism were ever really not partisan but more measured just might keep a larger audience.
Zinger is offline  
Old 11-06-19, 07:38 PM
  #3  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
Thread Starter
 
FiftySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 973

Bikes: Norco CityGlide, Schwinn Willy

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 231 Posts
Originally Posted by Zinger View Post
Just something noticed about some of Frontline lately.

Sounding partisan in the least doesn't lean towards keeping any appearance of objectivity but I guess that's the contemporary approach.

Not that journalism were ever really not partisan but more measured just might keep a larger audience.
I've heard that and witnessed it depending on the topic covered. I don't get to watch the show often, but the AI show stood out to me. Probably because I'm outside the industry and not up to speed with it all. I'm can be quite the Luddite in many situations.
FiftySix is offline  
Old 11-06-19, 09:39 PM
  #4  
Hondo Gravel
Of Worms and Ruins
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,157

Bikes: Too many Motobecanes

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 699 Post(s)
Liked 255 Times in 184 Posts
The subject freaks me out I remember the old rotary phones and taking a wrench to the tv antenna pipe to turn it so you could get the channel that had on the football game. I’m adapting but is is still creepy.
Hondo Gravel is offline  
Old 11-07-19, 12:02 AM
  #5  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 19,854
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9392 Post(s)
Liked 937 Times in 565 Posts
Originally Posted by FiftySix View Post
I've heard that and witnessed it depending on the topic covered. I don't get to watch the show often, but the AI show stood out to me. Probably because I'm outside the industry and not up to speed with it all. I'm can be quite the Luddite in many situations.
They don't talk about this much, but the industry is hard at work on another project called "artificial stupidity." Some of the more incoherent people in this forum are actually chat bots, training for customer support jobs.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Likes For Seattle Forrest:
Old 11-07-19, 07:22 AM
  #6  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
Thread Starter
 
FiftySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 973

Bikes: Norco CityGlide, Schwinn Willy

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 231 Posts
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
They don't talk about this much, but the industry is hard at work on another project called "artificial stupidity." Some of the more incoherent people in this forum are actually chat bots, training for customer support jobs.
Interesting. This author brings up the idea that the internet could soon be without humans.
https://singularityhub.com/2018/07/0...ithout-humans/
FiftySix is offline  
Old 11-07-19, 07:30 AM
  #7  
bobwysiwyg 
Senior Member
 
bobwysiwyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: 961' 42.28 N, 83.78 W (A2)
Posts: 1,985

Bikes: Mongoose Selous, Trek DS

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 756 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 77 Posts
Originally Posted by FiftySix View Post
Interesting. This author brings up the idea that the internet could soon be without humans.
https://singularityhub.com/2018/07/0...ithout-humans/
Facebook might well be the training ground.
__________________
"Skepticism is the first step in critical thinking." -- Me
bobwysiwyg is offline  
Likes For bobwysiwyg:
Old 11-07-19, 08:14 AM
  #8  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
Thread Starter
 
FiftySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 973

Bikes: Norco CityGlide, Schwinn Willy

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 231 Posts
Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
The subject freaks me out I remember the old rotary phones and taking a wrench to the tv antenna pipe to turn it so you could get the channel that had on the football game. I’m adapting but is is still creepy.
I went back to antenna TV in January 2017. Luckily, the transmitters I aim my antenna at are all in one patch of land about 20+ miles south of me. No turning of the "pipe" needed here.

Still got the 'net here, though. Obviously.
FiftySix is offline  
Old 11-07-19, 08:18 AM
  #9  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
Thread Starter
 
FiftySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 973

Bikes: Norco CityGlide, Schwinn Willy

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 231 Posts
BTW, the PBS channel I watched Frontline on is an HD channel and it looks fantastic on my old HD TV with Mohu attic antenna.
FiftySix is offline  
Old 11-07-19, 05:15 PM
  #10  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 19,854
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9392 Post(s)
Liked 937 Times in 565 Posts
https://thisxdoesnotexist.com/
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 11-07-19, 05:19 PM
  #11  
late
Senior Member
 
late's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,579
Mentioned: 108 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9312 Post(s)
Liked 40 Times in 36 Posts
It's a really good show, everyone should watch it.
late is offline  
Likes For late:
Old 11-07-19, 05:31 PM
  #12  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
Thread Starter
 
FiftySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 973

Bikes: Norco CityGlide, Schwinn Willy

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 231 Posts
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
From there, I ended up here. https://www.lyrn.ai/2018/12/26/a-sty...rial-networks/

Looks like modeling for stock photos and marketing is going to take an employment hit, too.
FiftySix is offline  
Old 11-07-19, 05:49 PM
  #13  
StupidlyBrave 
Chepooka
 
StupidlyBrave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 1,167

Bikes: 1990 Trek 1400 7spd; 2001 Litespeed Arenberg 10 speed

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 261 Post(s)
Liked 22 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
They don't talk about this much, but the industry is hard at work on another project called "artificial stupidity." Some of the more incoherent people in this forum are actually chat bots, training for customer support jobs.
Reported!!!
StupidlyBrave is offline  
Old 11-07-19, 05:53 PM
  #14  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
Thread Starter
 
FiftySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 973

Bikes: Norco CityGlide, Schwinn Willy

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 503 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 231 Posts
Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave View Post
Reported!!!
FiftySix is offline  
Old 11-09-19, 04:52 AM
  #15  
genec
genec
 
genec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West Coast
Posts: 26,389

Bikes: custom built, sannino, beachbike, giant trance x2

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7084 Post(s)
Liked 238 Times in 170 Posts
Perhaps the most frightening aspect is how AI suddenly makes leaps that humans failed consider.
genec is online now  
Old 11-09-19, 12:57 PM
  #16  
Rollfast
What happened?
 
Rollfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Around here somewhere
Posts: 7,848

Bikes: 3 Rollfasts, 3 Schwinns, a Shelby and a Higgins Flightliner in a pear tree!

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1711 Post(s)
Liked 180 Times in 160 Posts
I don't need AI to take more naps.
__________________
I don't know nothing, and I memorized it in school and got this here paper I'm proud of to show it.
Rollfast is offline  
Old 11-09-19, 07:57 PM
  #17  
Hondo Gravel
Of Worms and Ruins
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Hondo,Texas
Posts: 1,157

Bikes: Too many Motobecanes

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 699 Post(s)
Liked 255 Times in 184 Posts
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
that site ain’t helping. Nightmare inducing tech.

Last edited by Hondo Gravel; 11-09-19 at 07:59 PM. Reason: why do you care? I don’t care.
Hondo Gravel is offline  
Likes For Hondo Gravel:
Old 11-10-19, 12:22 PM
  #18  
Rollfast
What happened?
 
Rollfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Around here somewhere
Posts: 7,848

Bikes: 3 Rollfasts, 3 Schwinns, a Shelby and a Higgins Flightliner in a pear tree!

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1711 Post(s)
Liked 180 Times in 160 Posts
Now I should fix the antenna line and watch football.
__________________
I don't know nothing, and I memorized it in school and got this here paper I'm proud of to show it.
Rollfast is offline  
Old 11-11-19, 06:44 AM
  #19  
Zinger
Trek 500 Kid
 
Zinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,554

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2299 Post(s)
Liked 38 Times in 33 Posts
Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
Now I should fix the antenna line and watch football.

Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
The subject freaks me out I remember the old rotary phones and taking a wrench to the tv antenna pipe to turn it so you could get the channel that had on the football game. I’m adapting but is is still creepy.

That reminds me of this, lol.
Zinger is offline  
Likes For Zinger:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.